Nope, never spent any time in the third world. I’ve never had a business reason to travel there, and vacationing in exotic, remote locales is a luxury I can’t afford. I’d rather throw some gear in the back of the station wagon and go camping.
What’s your point? That refrigeration and vermin control has no effect on food safety?
You are missing his point. Countries that have laxer regulations are more free, and the people that live there are healthier, wealthier, and wiser. For example, regulation would severely cut into the thriving pirate industry in Somalia.
Then actually make a point, so we can all stop missing it.
Had a beef enchilada in Hermosillo once. Pretty sure about the enchilada part, the “beef” is subject to some doubt. Regretted it for three days. Worked in a slaughterhouse once, and I won’t tell you the shit I saw, because you wouldn’t believe me, and I could hardly blame you.
But you know how high school kids sometimes call their school lunches “mystery meat”? More truth than poetry in that. 'Nuf sed.
Ah, I see. So those Somalies, not the pirates but simple citizens, whose pictures I’ve seen in the media-- these people are benefiting from the boon of unrestricted freedom, yes? Their country is practically a Libertarian utopia, isn’t it?
Indeed, healthier, wealthier and certainly much wiser-- that’s exactly the way I would have described them.
Point taken. Thank you.
Idaho, would you like to contract foodborne illness at home in the United States, throughout your life, at the same per-meal rate that you did in Mexico?
I have been to several dozen developing countries on four continents.
I eat when I am in these countries. However, I follow the guidelines on what foods are safe to be eaten when there are questions about the cleanliness of food. For example, I will very rarely drink something with ice cubes in it, I will not eat strawberries which are often fertilized with human waste, I tend to avoid ice cream from non-major manufacturers which may be made with unpasteurized milk, avoid ground beef which is a breeding ground for e coli, and so on. I am not free to enjoy any food I want.
The amazing thing is that in the US, I need not worry about drinking iced tea, eating strawberries, enjoying a cheeseburger, or having an ice cream cone from a street vendor. I am free to eat just about anything.
Do you really think the United States would be better if we got rid of regulations requiring clean water and sanitary food preparation facilities, so that we lost the freedom to confidently choose which foods we wanted to eat with minimal fear of food borne diseases?
Oh, but surely an independent standards agency would spring up to certify food vendors as being sanitary, relieving consumers from having to inspect the kitchens themselves!
Were those things worth the, well, morally superior situation of not having government oppression guarantee clean water and food instead?
In Libertopia, it is good that infants die of salmonella and e. coli. They give their lives so that the rest of us can judge which food manufacturers are unsafe. These selfless little patriots are a necessary cog in the engine of Freedom. Their parents must be so proud.
He’s not actually named after Ayn Rand. His name is Randall Howard Paul. As a kid, he was known as “Randy”, It was his wife who gave him the nickname Rand.
The owner of a lunch counter has to get permission to sell to/serve the public. why people on the internet consistently quibble over meanings of words and definitions is an interesting phenomena. It’s like meeting a person who in real life whowhen you tell them ‘the sky is blue’ – will go on to argue with you that that isn’t exactly true. 
A lunch counter opens for business in order to make money by – serving the public. You see? The sky is blue.
Lots of libertarians on the web who have this weird quaint ideas about private property. Ideas left behind in the 18th century. It’s one area where times and definitions have changed and ideologues have not failed to keep up, they have retreated into the past.
Put up a sign that says “we refuse to serve blacks” and them we’ll have this discussion.
Ruby did not refuse service based on OJ’s color.
The business is private, the property is open to the public. A business can rent property. the property is not the business in this case. One can have a business that is closed to the public – like a factory. There are differences with distinctions.
It is not my assumptions that are false in your suppositions, it is my definitions. People can argue forever over things and never come to agreements if when they do not agree on what exactly it is they are talking about.
A little harsh, but your basic points sound. I would not say libertarians are pigs, disgusting in some cases, maybe. But as they would say in their own defense, it is a judgment call.
If you believe this then there is something wrong here.** Arguing** that a lunch counter has ‘the right’ to discriminate and then arguing that a right argued for is not acceptable is simply ridiculous.
How many other rights do you find unacceptable?
Use the speech argument if you want, just explain why?
I am sure it would every bit as good as the private firms that rated bonds.
How long will Libertarians and conservative tea partiers continue to have an alliance once the conservatives realize they want to legalize drugs and prostitution, allow pornography on TV, and support gay marriage?
And they are both huge fans of Ayn Rand and RP has claimed it never occurred to them that the coincidence would be noticed. I have to wonder of Ron named Randall after Rand. The family is, to put it mildly, odd.
I would argue it is exactly germane to the discussion. I would argue it is the whole, entire, frickin’ point.
You just said it, without even realizing it, in your last sentence. Do you even realize what you said?