What, precisely, makes you different from us in your ability to know shit about what’s going on?
I hang out with really smart people who discuss science?
Shame none of it rubs off on you, man.
-XT
So what are your sources?
Karen Silkwood was a member of the general public. Or is it okay to kill someone deliberately if they work for you? Good try on moving the goalposts.
Oh, stupid shit like this
http://www.meti.go.jp/press/20110329013/20110329013-2.pdf
or this
http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/EXPORT/projects/fukushima/plots/v8/plot-un2-full.png
you know, boring scientific shit. Slides and videos from boring as hell reports, in Japanese, it’s all quite dreary. But I’m dumber than a rock, so I mostly listen to smart people about this.
Oh, and a lot of different media sites, from outside the US.
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110330a1.html
Ain’t that some shit?
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Karen Silkwood was a member of the general public. Or is it okay to kill someone deliberately if they work for you? Good try on moving the goalposts.
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You are the one moving the goal posts, if you know anything about the story. If anything, she was deliberately murdered…the plutonium poisoning could have been a bullet to the back of the head (and it always seemed pretty suspicious to me on several levels). It wasn’t the cause of her death, in any event…she died under suspicious circumstances in an auto accident.
Nice try though. Er, no…not really. It was lame.
-XT
The information I saw says that there may had been foul play, that is that the makers of the plutonium pellets may had contaminated her, but in the end she died on a car crash, once again under suspicious circumstances; but if we are talking about moving goalposts you are. Silkwood was not working at a commercial US nuclear power plant, it was a plutonium fuels production plant.
Karen Silkwood, regardless of the merits or lack of merits of her case, was a technician in a nuclear power plant, and thus was not a member of the general public.
Well, I know the information that’s been released, same as you. I know a fair bit about the design of the GE Mark 1 thanks to a lot of reading over the past two weeks, presumably same as you. And I can draw conclusions, same as you.
So:
I’d like to find some verification of this. There may have been a Japanese-language press-release that hasn’t filtered through to the western media. Yesterday’s reports of the temperatures at the bottoms of the reactor pressure vessels (RPVs in my cite) were below 200 deg C. http://www.iaea.org/press/?p=1823 That doens’t square well with the cores having melted through the RPVs onto the containment floor, but of course situations change. Time to watch some Japanese news.
Contaminated seawater is a huge issue, but it depends what’s contaminating it and how much. Chlorine 38 is very radioactive but short-lived - 24-half-lives later and it’s 17 million times decreased - 15 hours. Same for iodine 134, but iodine 131 is a 6 month worry and caesium 137 is a decades-scale problem or worse. That said, if you can get it out to sea, the Pacific is a hell of a diluent.
On preview: Your second cite (from post 366) shows a core bottom temperature of less that 200 deg C yesterday. That doesn’t square with a meltdown. You might want to demonstrate your ability to extract any information at all from your first cite. Can you read Japanese?
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Oh, and a lot of different media sites, from outside the US.
Ain’t that some shit?
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You should have gone here instead…but then you aren’t very bright, are you?
-XT
I like the optimistic idea that they can just start dismantling the place. It will only take thirty years, but hey, you have to start sometime.
I know how to translate Japanese, using a computer, but I depend on my Japanese friends for the real translation.
That’s where you hang out with really smart people and discuss science? I see, I guess, science. There appears to be a lack of discussion.
A shit that still says “May” as in it *may *be coming from the core, incidentally most have already mentioned that the spent fuel pond is very likely the source of this, not that it would make it better, but you are still just guessing what exits are closed.
http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html
Somebody else should take this one. I don’t want to wear out my batteries.
You asked for sources, not where I hang out with smart science people. Of course if you hadn’t discussed me in the third person (and in doing so come across as sort of a dick), I might be more friendly.
Haha
Just kidding.
Give it up Frank, I asked before to FX for the “great” and smart places he hangs around, but he showed a long time ago what a chicken he is.
The latest data supporting the announcement about radioactivity in the ocean.
Hey, I asked where the scientific discussion here was, and got a lot of stupid shit for my troubles. Get off your high horse.
No, not you, that asshole over there. You are a fine fellow, but those other guys, they are real dickbags if you ask me.