That’s because all the threads I see are nonsense threads. Is there a serious real discussion of physics here? Where people are sharing data and information? Because I’m part of one of those elsewhere, and it is just huge. Nobody is allowed to go off on stupid tangents or promote their agendas.
Is there one of those kind of discussions here?
We discuss things like
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11032603-e.html
in great detail. But you have to be smart to even understand most of it.
No kidding.
I think we have a case of instant Wikipedia expertise here. Not that he is the only wanker here on this topic doing that.
I’ll say something like what i said in the other thread:
Well, some of us have been trying, in the other thread, to offer serious arguments about a variety of issues, including the problems of renewable energy, the safety (or otherwise) of nuclear power, and a variety of other issues related to nuclear energy and to the situation in Japan. It’s you and your Trolly McTrollerson comrade The Second Stone who have been ignoring serious attempts at discussion and ranting like radiation-damaged hyenas. You then also went and started this thread to rant like a fucking moron about…well, it’s not quite clear about what.
If you want a serious discussion of the issue, why don’t you actually set an example and start participating seriously in the ones that are already going. Or go start your own thread in GD or GQ. People will then be required to follow the rules of those forums and participate in a civil fashion, and you can show us the calm erudition and analytic rigor that you keep claiming to have, but that you have so far successfully hidden from everyone.
So, there isn’t a single rational discussion anywhere on the forum? That’s kind of hard to believe.
So you admit that radiation causes damage then??!!!?!!!111??one
Actually, it’s that you are irrational and bombastic, so you don’t recognize a reasoned discussion when you rant your way through it.
There are a multitude of rational scientific discussions of nuclear physics, what the scant information might mean, what can be done, what might happen. Populated by people who enjoy science and rational thought.
To rant and spew in one of those would be wrong.
To try and introduce facts here would also be wrong.
Of course I could be wrong about that.
Currently, the breakdown of the isotopes in sea water and leaking reactor water points to criticality inside the reactor(s), not fuel rods leaking. The nuetron beams measured also point to this, but nobody is sure what has happened, nor how that can be the case, but all evidence points to extreme damage inside at least two reactors, probably all three.
This is of course, just what the evidence shows. Nobody can get anywhere near the reactors to actually find out. Which in itself is a serious fucking problem.
The boron levels, the measurements of many things, TEPCO is flat out refusing to share or publish the information. They are complete assholes. Fuckers.
Sadly, rational goes right out the window as soon as you participate.
Slee
I have no problem keeping ranting in one topic, and science and reason in another.
How about you?
Not to mention that this is the BBQ Pit, and that plus his irrational, ranting OP are not exactly conducive to a thoughtful discussion on any topic.
@FXMastermind: Great Debates is the place you want to be, son. Get the hence, craft a thoughtfully researched, decently cited OP, and let’s see where it goes.
As someone who has written nuclear station operating manuals, including a station reference plan for the writing of such manuals, and as someone who has been an intervenor at my province’s class environmental assessment on supply/demand, I have to say that you could no more write a guide on such nuclear issues than you could fly to the moon by flapping your jaw.
So the levels of something-or-other are 1000 times higher than normal, someplace-or-other… Yeah, that sounds bad, but by itself it means very little unless it can be put in terms of human deaths/injuries, loss of wildlife, loss of productive farmland, etc. Heck, I can look at my palm and analyze the “normal” amount of copper that should be on my skin. Then I put a penny in my hand and OMG!!!1111ELEVENTY!!! my topical copper levels have jumped to one trillion times normal!!!
Wrong. There is nothing wrong with introducing facts in the Pit.
Here let’s try it. Let’s introduce a fact.
Fact, meet FX. FX, meet fact.
There, see, its not going to bite you, FX, so you can stop your hysteria.
I dunno – he does flap that jaw fast and hard.
It might be possible.
If any guide to understanding nuclear radiation, and how the different levels effect human beings, food, water, all the information that billions of people want to read right now, if any such document exists, it’s not on the internet.
If it existed, it would be linked to. Copied. It would appear almost everywhere right now. That there is no such document, that says a lot.
Now, here’s where you get to use facts to make me look bad. Show us the guide.
Hell, just show us the guide to converting all the different measurements. Like, how you get the figure for naturally occurring potassium in food to the yearly dose. Or how the figures for yearly cosmic ray exposure translates to exposure from airborne Cesium, or what level of radioactive iodine in drinking water compares to the natural radiation from eating bananas.
That kind of fact based science. People are interested.
Muffin didn’t say that there was such a guide; he said that you were incapable of writing one.
Sheesh. This is why we can never have nice things around here.
FX, Google is your friend.
When you get back to class on Monday, you should speak with your science teacher about setting up a discussion group.