I’m seriously hoping a month from now you will still not know a damn thing about it. Much like the Fuksuhima crisis, I’m always hoping for a good end to bad shit.
I know exactly what you’re talking about.
You’re still an alarmist. You still get your kicks from knocking over the little straw men you set up and argue with.
And you get off on it all.
You don’t want a good end; you want to gloat.
For the record, I assume you’re talking about the Fort Calhoun reactor in Nebraska.
If I’m wrong, I couldn’t care less. I’m not interested in trying to read your mind, filled with hysterics about impending nuclear disasters as it is.
What you won’t see in that, or any other media story, is the Oahe Dam. It’s the fourth largest reservoir in the US, and that’s why they are flooding Nebraska, to keep that dam from failing.
If the media was about sensationalism, panic, scaremongering to get viewers, claims pro-nuclear forces constantly make (with no evidence of course), there would b front page stories, interviews with experts, a whole controversy and panic being generated by the situation in Nebraska.
I’ve been aware of this story for 12 days, but I’m not beating the drum, or trying to alert the media. I’m not even surprised that despite the international stories, concerning the nuclear plants, you won’t hear a peep out of any of the supposedly fear mongering media outlets in the US.
Just the mention of how they may have to indeed destroy two nuclear power stations to save a dam, that is enough to send chills up and down the national spine. I actually agree with the decisions not to promote the story. But at some point, when it is known for a fact that the plants are going under, (which will only happen if there is a lot or rain), when do you start telling the people the truth? So they have time to take action?
How much information do you withhold from the public? If nothing happens, you have caused a panic. If you don’t say anything, you leave people with little time, and a huge resentment after the fact.
Here is the essential story, you will not find (yet) anywhere online or in the press. (OK maybe some conspiracy sites, but I don’t read them)
If the snow melt in Montana is combined with a lot of rain, the two reactors will be destroyed. The power plants will fail, and it will be the worst disaster in history. This is pure physics. They have to release the water, or the dam fails, which means the same result, but with far worse flooding.
And there is, at this point, not a thing anyone on the planet can do about it. The fuel can not be removed from the plant. The plants can not be moved. The defenses at this point can not be reinforced. And there is nowhere for the water to go.
So that is the alarmist story.
Obviously nobody wants to promote that scenario, much less talk about it. It means, in essence, that at this moment in time, the amount of rain in the next 6 weeks will determine the fate of both the nuclear plants, as well as a lot of people downstream from them.
There isn’t any way to change this story. If it rains, the plants are doomed. If it doesn’t, we will forget about all this in a few months.
This is all laws of physics stuff.
The level of the water is the only factor that will determine the future. No amount of money, machinery or manpower can save the reactors if the rains come hard.
And I full support the media NOT running that story.
That’s a lie. My source states they are already underwater
No, they are still protected from the reactor itself flooding. Complete failure is still 2.6 feet away. Only if there is a lot of rain will they go under.
Well, some other fuck up might happen, but that isn’t certain.
It is certain if it rains a lot, they are doomed.
So you lied then but not now?
Go away troll.
More reality from Japan.
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/16_17.html
Now the nuclear shithead will try and tell you it means little, and that safety standards are set low, or something, anything to avoid reality.
Meanwhile, scientists know exactly what happens to cesium in cows, and why the milk can’t be used.
The true nuclear shithead will tell you it’s nothing, but in the real world, people are concerned about radioactive material going into their kids bodies.
Remember, this was 200km from the disaster site. North of it.
Excellent, evidence emerges that you can’t be trusted and you can only respond with that. Keep fighting the truth, Urban VIII would be pleased.
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/floodwater-seeps-into-nebraska-989446.html
Don’t worry, they said “everything is secure and safe.” When you hear that it means nothing is wrong.
Also, when they say “The river was not expected to rise higher than the level the plant is designed to handle.” that means nothing bad can happen, because they don’t expect it.
That’s how Fukushima was kept safe you know. They didn’t expect to get anything the plant couldn’t handle. So just relax.
CNN article on the same subject:
I know you are avidly watching for the imminent collapse of those upstream dams, but you have as yet provided any evidence that they are in fact in danger of said collapse. Unless they DO collapse it doesn’t look to me like there is much danger of a Fukushima type disaster happening here…or any other kind of NUCLEAR disaster. The disaster from the flood, however, is quite extensive with many people forced to flee the area due to the highly toxic combination of the elements hydrogen and oxygen.
-XT
The Nuclear Regulatory Commission indicated that the Fort Calhoun Nuclear Generating Station, “did not have adequate procedures to protect the intake structure and auxiliary building against external flooding events.” In simple terms, a large flood would have made it impossible to maintain cooling.
The assessment also indicated that the facility was not adequately prepared for a “worst-case” flooding scenario. A number of potential flood water penetration points were discovered that could have impacted the raw feed water supply to the cooling system, the axilliary water supply and main switchgear (electrical) room.
They also pointed out the extreme fire risk, where a fire in a critical area could prevent cooling operations, even the emergency ones. I sincerely hope the eventual story on this will be the upgrades they made worked, nothing happens, and it will pointed out that the system worked, and severe shortcomings were dealt with, avoiding a meltdown and disaster that polluted the entire waterway.
That’s another story the media ignores. Stupid media. But, this situation certainly makes it clear that not a single major media outlet in the US is alarmists. A spurious claim nuclear moonbats like to trot out when something bad is actually happening. Like early on with Fukushima. They were actually underplaying the dangers and risks we now know. Then, when the true horror became evident, they dropped the entire story.
Just to recap:
- In February 2011, the regulatory inspectors checked the site. They found issues they were unhappy with, and requested changes
- The site made those changes.
- In June 2011, the area experiences flooding that is “unprecedented in duration” and “unprecedented in volume,” and “unprecedented in modern recorded history.”*
- And nothing happens. To quote someone who anyone other than you would likely view as an impartial:
“Bottom line: The floods appear more annoying than destroying for Nebraska’s nuclear plants,” says nuclear engineer David Lochbaum of the Union of Concerned Scientists, a nuclear industry critic. “If the NRC had not found the flooding protection shortcomings (at Fort Calhoun) last year and compelled the owner to fix them, chances increase considerably that the floodwater would have gotten into places that disabled equipment.”
Tell me something. Are you providing this incident as an example of the regulatory system doing its job, or of plant operators complying with audit findings, or what?
- Congressman King’s speech here: Congressman Steve King Special Order - Missouri River Flood - YouTube
The plant operators did eventually agree to do the repairs that were reported as critical. They certainly didn’t do them as soon as they were told of them.
The larger issue of simply being physically unable to move the spent fuel rods, if faced with a certain catastrophic failure, that issue was never in any report. NRC or media. It still stands as the fatal flaw in storing dangerous nuclear material, in vast amounts, right next to a working reactor.
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The plant operators did eventually agree to do the repairs that were reported as critical. They certainly didn’t do them as soon as they were told of them.
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They must have done it fairly quickly if they were told about the shortcomings in February and they were ready for floods in June, however.
The trouble is there is no place to move the rods TOO. They have the ability to move the things (though there would probably be wide spread protest about moving them by the anti-nuclear community, such as yourself). We COULD be moving them to Yucca Mountain, but, sadly that initiative was killed. By folks like you. And since we can’t recycle we are kind of stuck with the things piling up in situ. That’s what you get when you get your way but you have no rational alternatives to put forward, merely knee jerk fear based protests. I love the way you can turn that around to somehow make this both the nuclear power plant operators fault AND a major flaw in the design. 
-XT
15 metric tons of water (low level radiation) leaked from a storage tank at Fukushima.
Tokyo Electric Power Company shares are down 85% from that at the time of the tsunami. They may need to pay $100 billion in compensation. a cold shutdown by January is still hoped for.
The problem is they CAN’T move the spent fuel. If they could, it would be simple enough to move it out of harms way. Or move it to another facility. While nuclear cheerleaders bemoan the lack of storage it would be simple enough to give spent fuel rods to another country. Lots of other countries would gladly take 100,000 tons of spent fuel rods off our hands. Or just the 4,000 tons of plutonium in them.
Not a problem.
each of the remaining 34000 children in Fukushima city will be given a dosimeter. outside activity for children has been stopped. there are hot spots all over the city.
And from the “no surprise” department:
Revealed: British government’s plan to play down Fukushima
While the nuclear cheerleaders will certainly attack the Greenpeace statements
...there is little doubt the gist of the story is true. The nuclear/military/government complex has always lied about nuclear issues. It's no surprise they finally got caught. Thanks internet.