This could be in GD but given the subject matter I thought I’d drop here.
Generally speaking I’m not anti pornography. I put it in the same league as cigarettes, big macs, and gambling; enjoyable every now and again, but unhealthy if you overindulge. However…
While trolling through kazaa for some good, wholesome fuck flicks I happened across a clip from a Japanese animated porn (Hentai) called “Bible Black.” It was too disturbing for words. School kids were raping their teachers, hermaphrodites were raping pregnant women, it was just fucking wrong in every way possible.
We all have our fetishes, but I don’t see why anyone should be allowed to make a buck off of degenerates who get off on rape, even if it is just animated. I don’t want get all preachy here, but what the fuck? Why does the Japanese government allow this shit, and more importantly why are the Japanese watching rape movies?
Maybe, just maybe, this could explain why Japan has a much lower incidence of actual rape than the US. The actual production of rape hentai involves zero (0) actual women being raped. And the person who buys the rape hentai and beats off to it is only raping one thing: his hand. Or whatever he’s masturbating with. Even with live action, the actress is -surprise!- only acting.
Why are the Japanese watching rape movies? Guess what? People EVERYWHERE are doing it. The sexual degenerate is a person in your neighborhood, a person in your neighborhood… You wouldn’t believe what people get turned on by, and rape, incredible as it might sound, probably isn’t the worst thing a person could get aroused by. Don’t believe me? Google for Waita Uziga sometime.
Why does the Japanese government allow it? Perhaps they’d rather have some of those degenerates spending their nights at home with a bottle of lotion (handful of bacon, or whatever) and a rape flick than having them out on the streets actually trying to rape women.
I don’t know, but I would point out that the American government allows video stores to sell and rent the exact same videos, and usually much more openly. I was surprised to see adult titles in the “anime” section of some American video stores instead of the small room behind the curtain. I don’t see tentacle porn videos at Tsutaya (Japanese equivalent of Blockbusters), not even in the adult section.
Some Japanese people watch rape movies, for the same reasons that some Americans watch them.
I’m a big fan of Anime (and to my shame the occasional Hentai) and believe me the things you see in Bible Black are a drop in the bucket compared to some other hentai. For me it went to disturbing to stupid to indifference back to disturbing again. Whenever I think that I’ve seen the limit there’s always something else around the corner.
I’d guess it’s in part to the censorship laws in Japan that forbids them to show genitalia if you can’t see the ‘action’ so to speak you have to spice up the video somewhere else. Rape, bondage, incest, pedophilia and bukkue (sp?) seems to be the solutions to this.
As for how it effects people I’d have to give it the standard answer for all porn. Kids shouldn’t see it. Disturbed people that will use this to fuel their fantasy into action shouldn’t see it (of course there’s no way to determine who that is before hand). Adults that know the difference between actors/drawings can watch whatever gets their rocks off.
Nothing personal there Tentacle Monster, (ironic name considering the discussion of Anime Tentacle Porn) but I have to disagree completely with your assesment of the effect of porn on potential offenders of actual crimes.
Everything that we have learned about the psychology of porn suggests that porn doesn’t relieve but rather encourages the feelings stimulated by that pornography. Even porn that doesn’t directly use rape/control fantasies enhances reponsiveness to such ideas and makes people more likely to act out deviant fantasies.
Not to say that that reflects anything about my own views of what should be allowed. I think that as long as it doesn’t harm somebody directly in the manufacturing, it should be legal, but I don’t think you can use the drive reduction argument to support it.
It depends on whether (1) high school uniform fetish counts as “pedophilia”, and (2) tentacled monsters (not the poster Tentacle Monster ) count as bestiality.
if you’ll look to my post I already mentioned that there’s pedophilia usually you’ll have a ‘strangely young looking girl’ that’s drawn to look 13 (or even younger) but due to some bizarro world aging system will be labeled at 18 by the game/movie. Sometimes though they don’t even bother with that and flat out tell you the girl is underage. (if anyone doubts this check out “Nocturnal Illusion” it has two underage characters though the American version cuts out one and re-labels the other as 18)
As for bestiality…do you count being raped by tentacle wielding demons? If so then definitely yes. If not? I’m not sure. I don’t remember any examples off hand though I’m sure they are out there.
dang on preview I see I was slow to type all this. Oh well you’ll get it anyway damnit.
You know how the first amendment gives the KKK the right to hold public rallies and parade down city streets? This is the other end of the spectrum. The content might be nauseating, but so long as all the parties involved are consenting adults, people have a right to create and consume this sort of stuff.
I don’t think that you could make a convincing case that the exsistence of rape porn prevents rape. But Japan’s fantastically low rape statistics would seem to argue against the idea that rape porn encourages rape. Although no one here has yet made that claim.
Unlike Japan, if you commit murder in the US, we’ll kill your ass, and yet we still have murderers. Japan’s prisons may be worse, but our prisons aren’t exactly garden patches either, and we still have rape. So no, I don’t suppose it has anything to do with Japanese prisons being hell on earth.
Actually, I have seen specimens of hentai containing bestiality with things other than tentacle monsters. Fortunately, not enough to put me out of a job.
I found this study which does more analysis that I’m willing to do to defend my honor online (and for my beloved SDMB, that’s quite a bit). Some excerpts:
So the Japanese watch/read more porn than we do, of a more graphic nature, and yet there are fewer rapes and sexual assaults. I’ll admit it might not be the “drive-quenching” effect, but there is something majorly different, here. Personally, I think it’s the difference in the quality of education between America and Japan. I can’t prove this, being in the military leaves me precious little time to write theses.
) count as bestiality.
usually you’ll have a ‘strangely young looking girl’ that’s drawn to look 13 (or even younger) but due to some bizarro world aging system will be labeled at 18 by the game/movie. Sometimes though they don’t even bother with that and flat out tell you the girl is underage. (if anyone doubts this check out “Nocturnal Illusion” it has two underage characters though the American version cuts out one and re-labels the other as 18)