What?
Really? You might as well say we shouldn’t prosecute any domestic abuser then.
You’d think people would have realized he hit her when they saw the first video of him dragging her out of the elevator several months ago. How did she get in that condition? Perhaps a fist to the jaw? It’s not hard to figure out from the video released months ago.
Now months later the whole thing erupts all over again because we see the punch. Something we already knew happened from the first video.
That’s fine with me.
The question is if these types of abusive relationships are the ones being described in your cited sources.
We shouldn’t really be surprised that video of a brutal event causes a greater emotional reaction than hearing about it (and watching video of the aftermath).
Yeah, language can be precise, but often isn’t. And it generally is unable to convey the entire experience of seeing something.
I don’t follow the NFL, though I do follow MLB. Do people think this sort of incident would have gotten a different bigwig reaction in other sports? I see a lot of vitriol thrown at the NFL and from my perspective it’s deserved, but would the NBA or MLB or MLS or the NHL handle it differently or better? (I’m not sure if there is enough information to judge that. I’m just curious.)
IMHO (and I say this as an NFL fan who mostly wishes baseball and hockey would disappear and leave more room for more football), the NFL gets kid glove treatment from the media.
Drug scandals that rock baseball barely merit a footnote when football players also turn out to be involved. The NFL is basically where baseball was 15 years ago before the PED hammer came down; everyone knows the players are juicing, and everyone knows the PED policy is a joke. For whatever reason, nobody gives a shit.
I assume it’s because the NFL is now the gorilla in the room and media outlets are afraid to jeopardize their chances of bidding for Wednesday Night Football or whatever the next broadcast expansion will be.
I don’t see how you get that from what i said. That poor girl who got punched just lost millions of dollars on top of being abused, how could that not affect the decision of the next NFL wife who gets knocked out by her husband?
If I was convicted of spousal battery, I might also be fired, placing our finances in jeopardy. Ergo, my wife should not report me if I beat her.
Exactly. Has the whole world gone completely nuts?! What do people think a knock-out looks like! You didn’t see Buster Douglas knock out Mike Tyson? And we knew all of this many months ago! It’s crazy. I think the renewed outrage over the video is almost entirely media-driven. This new portion of the video is not news, a proper response would be to say “well, yeah, we already knew that.”
I could see that affecting her decision. Many abused persons have lots of reasons for their decisions.
But it seemed you were tying that to whether there was a video, and that’s the connection I don’t get.
Generally speaking, they would not, if I can correctly predict precisely what you mean by that. In practice it is hard to imagine how you could have one person “occasionally” inflicting violence on another person without that relationship being abusive.
Kicking Ray Rice off the team just makes the situation at home more dangerous for his wife. Unemployed, broke, depressed who do you think he’ll take his frustration out on?
The original penalty was meant to reprimand Rice and change how he treated his wife. His coaches had been counseling him. The hope was he’d grow up and not make the same mistake again. She claims the relationship was improving. She even went ahead with the marriage after this incident. Now they are both SOL. No money. No job. It’s a dangerous situation for her. Especially if he starts drinking. She needs to get out of that house quick.
I mean if next time there isn’t a video then the victim won’t speak up.
Are you hiring?
No it wasn’t. It was meant to protect the NFL.
Okay, but why? How has the existence of this video changed what happens when there is no video? I’m not saying it can’t. I’m just not following the argument.
This is the same thing as when you take action against any abuser, such as arresting them or firing them or having a restraining order against them, etc. It seems to be an argument against taking any action at all.
No video + victim unwilling to speak up because it will cost them millions of dollars = we never find out about the next abuser.
This, unlike every other thing you’ve said here, is a valid point. And it sucks. The best you can say is that it should’ve happened before and that nobody here had a real choice.
Bullshit. It was meant to ameliorate public anger toward Rice, and so is the second penalty.
He’s been in the NFL for six years and presumably has some money. But that’s it for his income, yes.
Probably true.
And yes, people seem to be making arguments for doing nothing.
What you ought to realize is that we already don’t find out about a lot of abusers. Look at how much it took for us to find out about this case and for anybody to take action - and Ray Rice didn’t even go to trial.