I used to be a Charter Member and pay to post, things were different then, opposing views were tolerated, but not now, I can’t post anything anymore without being called for it. I have never broken the rules, I have been the subject of mod harassment constantly. You just make up the rules as you go along. Never do you call anyone on calling me names. Wait, this is beginning to sound like a whine. Just forget it, this board is doomed to be nothing but a heavily biased liberal board that don’t have moderators that understand the rules nor the word.
Opposing views are tolerated here, lekatt. You’ll notice I didn’t intervene on either side of the discussion in that thread. What’s not tolerated are some of your posting habits: condescension toward other posters, constant citing of your own blog, your failure to understand evidence, and your refusal to stay on topic. Over here I intervened because the thread was about gender identity, and you were posting about two things that were unrelated to the topic: spirituality and gays. If I hadn’t posted, there would have been yet another long and pointless argument about your spiritual views (and you’ve discussed those in plenty of threads) and several posters would have tried to explain to you that gays and transgendered people are two different groups. I know other posters in the thread had talked about gays, mostly as a comparison to transgendered people, but they are not the same thing at all. You’d know that if you’d done even a Google search. Since that was your starting point in that thread - two hijacks in one post - I decided it was better to have done with it.
And speaking of staying on topic, I’m moving these two posts to a separate thread. They’re not related to this one.
You want to post unsubstantiated bullshit in GD? Who do you think you are, Der Trihs?
Regards,
Shodan
Yeah, I guess you are right. I am not a Der.
Transgender does not include gay, and homosexuals?
Not what most people think, just making up the rules again as you go. Marley
Don’t understand what evidence means:
I posted links to studies done by scientists at universities and published in scientific journals. Just didn’t agree with the evidence so it is not evidence, making up the rules again.
Linking to my site, yes, but most links were not material that I had written. Just making up the rules again.
This board has the most heavy-handed, biased moderators, not counting elitist attitudes, and no, no, opposing views are not tolerated especially when the evidence is on their side.
I would welcome a real moderator to look over your complaints, one that had the respect of the posters for being honest, and obeying the rules of the board.
It’s pretty much besides the point. They don’t want to ban you outright. But they don’t want you around, both because you are (no offense) not much at debate and also because your particular brand of BS does not fly as much under the radar as other kinds do.
If you want to stick around, stay out of GD. But nothing is going to change. Threads like this one are just going to give them a reason to ban you.
Regards,
Shodan
It doesn’t. It really doesn’t.
It’s never clear to me why someone with such a low opinion of this board would choose to stick around. I’m not singling you out specifically for this; there are certainly others on the board whose presence here is apparently an endless trial of suffering and injustice. But honestly, why stay if you’re that miserable? What are you getting out of it? I’ve visited, and participated in, boards that I thought were crap and never once felt a compulsion to remain there and subject myself to an atmosphere I hated. The Web is a very big place.
You didn’t say some transgendered people were gay. You confused gays with transgendered people.
Gays (at least the vast majority) do not feel they were born in the wrong body. TG people do. As I said, you don’t know the difference and were on point of turning the thread into a discussion of reincarnation. From the second sentence of the (I’m guessing Wikipedia) article you quoted:
I don’t think they specifically care is a poster named lekatt sticks around. They’ve been quite specific on what they don’t want him(?) posting. They don’t want him turning every GD thread into a spiritual one. To use your language: it’s the BS they want to get rid of, not the poster.
I don’t know if I count as a “real” moderator, but I think Marley made absolutely the right call in shutting down your hijack before it could derail the thread.
Did you even read your own cite. It says right there (the one with the nice box around the text),
Do you get it? Again, “Transgender” does not imply any specific form of sexual orientation . . . ".
The BS you refer to is scientific research being conducted at many universities across the world. That is what I present and that is what they call BS. OK. Dr. Raymond Moody in his book “The Last Laugh” told the skeptics to go ahead and make fun of the research, laugh it up, whoop it up big, because the last laugh is mine. I will join Dr. Moody in that laugh. One last link, you will need to know the information it provides.
YouTube videos are particularly bad cites. Most of them are just people rambling about whatever is passing through their minds at the moment. If you want your cites to be taken seriously, then post a link to a text page. Preferably one that doesn’t have illustrations that the author has scribbled on note paper.
Hi Lynn
Nice to meet an Angel of Death. I have been debating skeptics for about 10 years now as time permits, and the one thing I can count on is they never accept a link to any kind of media that is contrary to their belief system. The reason I know is last week I linked to a small study on a skeptic site. The skeptics were using the study to show that consciousness might be still alive when a near death experience takes place. I was using the link for a different purpose, and sure enough the link was labeled unsubstatianted by the skeptics where I was posting. I don’t doubt the authenticity of the video link I provided. There is no dearth of near death experience accounts where skeptics or agnostics were converted to believe in spiritual things. I was an agnostic, myself. They are usually converted from religion also. Spirituality is nothing like religion, even though skeptics lump them together due to a lack of knowledge. I chose the video in sincerity to show the readers if they find themselves in a similar situation they just need to call for help. Calling for help is very important, and many negative near death experiences end positively by the individual calling for help.
The problem isn’t that the links are contrary to anyone’s belief system. The problem is that your cites are badly flawed most of the time. They don’t say what you assert they do or they are unscientific. Posters point out those flaws, as they always do when those kinds of things get posted. People have told you this a thousand times, of course.
Your standards for authenticity are exceedingly low. Have you ever read an account of the supernatural that you doubted?
Frankly, I don’t watch most videos that are presented as cites. The speakers are usually quite sincere, but with a text cite I can copy and paste words and phrases and Google them, so that I can see if the facts are actually as presented. Also, if I’m given a choice between having something read to me, and reading it myself, I will always want to read it myself. I read about a gazillion times faster than anyone can speak, and what’s more, I can understand the information much better, too. I get crazy bored when I watch most YouTube “informational” videos.
And that’s an example of your problem. You did not give a factual cite. Instead, what you gave was an example of witnessing. Someone had an experience. This experience cannot be reliably replicated, it’s purely subjective. Cites are objective, and can be repeated.
Yes, that was an example of witnessing. Almost everything is an example of witnessing. All personal experience when told to someone else is witnessing, whether the person is a scientist or a proofreader. Life is made up of such things. I read articles everyday written by scientists saying they have discovered a new gene link, pehaps a gene linked to cancer. This is also an example of witnessing. Life is made up of personal experience, that’s really all we have. Now could I duplicate that scientist’s discovery, no, and neither could you. Not without tons of money and equipment. We either believe him or not based upon our previous beliefs. After all scientists have been caught cheating and lying about their data more than once.
Millions of people have near death experiences, thousands of them are in the media. If you are like me, and have experienced one, you will tend to believe other near death experiencers. There is nothing strange about subject experience, there are now some scientists working with quantum mechanics that believe there is no such thing as objective data. I think they are right on.
Because personal experience can’t be duplicated easily doesn’t make it false, or wrong, or the person suspect, except in the eyes of skeptics that don’t believe spiritual things exist. Over ninety percent of the population of the world say they believe in an afterlife. Then skeptics say they are all wrong without hearing any of their experiences. Just because science has set in stone some methods and procedures they believe in, don’t make those methods and procedures infallible.
It is all a matter of beliefs, and all beliefs are subject to change at all time. The last time I talked to an Angel of Death, he put his ok on my returning to finish my physical life. I needed to take care of my family, and my beliefs changed dramatically.
Actually, according to your own description of the incident, what you had was an OBE, not an NDE, because it missed the main requirement-you weren’t near death.