Why did JFK Jr decline to take a shower before his final, fatal flight?
He said he was planning to wash up on Martha’s Vineyard.
What does NASA stand for? Need Another Seven Astronauts.
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Think maybe someone is thinking of financing a new movie or tv special and floated(sorry) the news story to see if there was any interest in the old mystery?
FTR I, too, find these jokes about her death utterly tasteless. Not surprising, just tasteless.
If you’re looking for a website where all the jokes are in good taste, keep searching.
I belong to several Dead Pool websites that make this place look like the Mickey Mouse Club.
I apologize if I insulted anyone. It was me drunk posting. I do feel that making jokes at the expense of a dead and possibly murdered woman is punching down. YMMV. But I was wrong to respond the way I did.
More like pushing down.
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I didn’t think we plumbed the depths of bad taste here. Glad to get that confirmed.
Walken is really the only one who could help investigators with what he saw and heard - the boat captain has been vocal about what he heard and thinks, and Wagner is certainly not going to incriminate himself…
The few times Walken has spoken, he attributes it to an accident that no one witnessed…one speculation he put forward was that she was trying to move the dinghy as it was banging against the side of the boat…
But, it was well known she had a extreme fear of water and could not swim, so IMHO, that makes no sense…and they were all drinking, Wagner has acknowledged the captain’s statement that, at one point, he got so angry that he smashed a bottle of wine on the table…
Pure speculation alert: Walken heard the fighting and arguing that the boat captain reported… (evidently there are additional witnesses on nearby boats per CBS ‘48 Hours’)…Wagner and Wood were arguing on the back of the board, things got physical, he hit her, she fell and was knocked unconscious…he then slide her off the boat via the ski ramp…no one has ever reported a splash, just that there was loud arguing and sudden silence…
And as long as Wagner and Walken stick to their stories, nothing comes of this…
Wagner is 87. We’ll never know for sure what happened that night. He’s not answering any questions. His lawyer makes sure of that.
I do recall there was physical evidence that Natalie was in that skiff and had struggled for a long time to survive. Trying to pull herself into the skiff. She was too drunk to save herself. IIRC blood and tissue was found on the skiff.
A very intense, drunken fight between the two was acknowledged at the time. Perhaps Robert chased her into the skiff. Or perhaps she simply was angry and wanted to leave quickly and get to shore.
That will never be known. It’s a senseless tragedy either way.
Nah, I’m fine with this one. Just pointing out that people have been making these jokes for nearly 37 years. We didn’t make them up here.
This is what you get when it is “too soon”:
NOT SAFE FOR WORK!!!
I’m fine with it, too. I’ve been critiquing tasteless jokes for a lot longer than that. And will likely continue.
Is that the sound of air escaping? :dubious:
That would be “gurgle, glub glub”.
The original coroner, Thomas Noguchi, writes about the case in one of his books. He attributed the bruising to Wood trying desperately to climb into the dinghy after she missed climbing into it, or fell out and slipped into the water. They were all in places consistent with her trying to flip the boat and drag herself back into it. He opined that if she had been sober (or un-panicked) enough to take off her sodden coat, she probably could have done it, and would have been found in the morning, likely on the island where the boat washed up.
If he has an opinion about what happened on the boat before she disembarked he doesn’t really share. But FWIW, he doesn’t seem to think she was beaten and thrown overboard – he thought she left entirely under her own power.
I saw a show on this just last night. The one question that loomed in my mind when it was over was, “If there is so much evidence pointing at foul play and so many corroborating witnesses, why was the case closed in the first place?” You mean to say that, after decades, they are just figuring out that something may definitely be amiss?
Huh. I watched “Rebel Without a Cause” back in high school on Turner Classic Movies and afterwards they talked about how both Natalie Wood and James Dean died, and for some reason I got it in my head that they died around the same time in the 1950s. I never saw “West Side Story” or “Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice” so I didn’t ever realize Natalie Wood died in the 1980s in her 40s until doing some Wikipedia research because of this thread.