I have tried finding a quick answer on this and failed.
A house was owned by a husband and wife, only husband on the deed. Wife dies around 25 years ago, unknown what occurred no will house apparently remained in husband’s name. Husband died a decade ago, house was probated and is currently owned in deed to his two children 50/50.
Would it be needed or even possible to go back and do a probate now on the deceased wife’s share, which is apparently now of vital importance?
You would likely find that the two current owners are unshakeably the current owners. Texas allows a three-year period to adversely possess real property under color of title. Even if there was some mistake ten years ago, recording a deed in the name of the current owners started a countdown to prevent anyone from raising an objection.
If this is a question of some value, you won’t be able to get a quick answer, and the only answer you should rely on would be from an attorney licensed in Texas who also focuseson real property law.
You say that the wife died 25 years ago with no will? I don’t know what the laws of intestate succession are in Texas, but where I am, in that case, the surviving spouse would receive a one-half share, and the remaining one-half divided equally among the decedent’s children–assuming she had any. It’s not obvious from the OP that the two children in question belong to the deceased wife, nor whether she might have had any other children from some other prior marriage or relationship.
This is really not the kind of thing to seek answers about on the Internet, pretty clearly.
Sounds like you need facts, as in, a definitive answer, in order to take any ‘next step’.
Get a lawyer who specializes in real estate, and practices in Texas. Everything else is just conjecture. I don’t see how that’s going to be helpful in the least!
If everybody signed off on it, ten years ago, what grounds would you use to have it undone or redone? They are surely going to need a compelling reason, I should think. Otherwise wouldn’t everybody be going back and redoing things, that they’ve second guessed in the fullness of time. (It would be awesome to be able to go back and redo things that happened ten years ago though. I’m sure we’d all like a little of that!)
I understand fully and a professional attorney in the state has been hired to take care of it. But while he has documents I’m not going to be able to speak with him until he reviews them.
I was told this had to be done by one of the 50% owners in order to sell the house, I was just curious if it even passed the possible test. I’m impatient.
Before we go any further, could you explain what you mean by the “house was owned by a husband and wife” when only the husband was on the deed?
I note that Texas is a community property state. I am not intimately familiar with the intricacies of community property, but a pertinent question might be whether this house was part of the community and, if so, why was only one name on the deed?
I’ll admit I am not sure if that is technically true or not, with my context below:
On several homes I know of purchased in Texas in the 70s-80s although only the husband’s name is on the deed, real estate lawyers and others claim they are jointly owned. My own parents jointly purchased a house in 1977 in Texas, the deed says John Smith, my mothers name is nowhere on it but when I recently inquired about probate I was told it is jointly owned, at the time they just didn’t put the wife on the deed. I honestly don’t know.
So it is a house owned by a man, but considered joint property?
This http://www.frieslandlaw.com/Docs/EP9.pdf
Seems to say that the real estate “community property” goes 100% to the spouse if the children are children of both. If the husband had adopted them, presumably that gave them the same status as natural children, so I would guess case B applies and the estate as settled on the wife’s death is correct.
Here in the U.K., once probate is done, it’s done, generally speaking. If there was no will, then everything will have gone to the husband. If she had been left things in trust for her children (e.g. by her own parents) then that would have been handled at the time.
Yes, in most situations a will once settled, like a court case, is finished. (I suppose absent evidence of fraud, etc.) There must be a time period to appeal or contest, then it’s set in stone.
For precisely the reason cited - nobody wants to re-open decades-old legal issues where many of the parties are gone or have forgotten the details. Nobody wants a title to be as fragile as the next sharp lawyer. The whole system would fall apart if you buy a property in good faith, (or loan against it) only to have it yanked out from under you.
Note the link I posted has a number of situations, but in general - one way or another, the family home goes to the surviving spouse as either a life lease or as full title. Nobody wants to toss a widow out on the street at 80.
the situation is interesting and addresses to some extent a question a friend of mine had. he and his new wife bought a home. he has 2 kids so does she. Whoever dies first the other one gets full title and the first one’s kids get nothing.
Mind you, this is intestate rules. With a will you can do (almost) anything.
md2000, if your friends are in Texas and each spouse has two children by other people, the Texas rules on intestacy will split the house between the surviving spouse and the two children of the decedent.