REAL-ID driver license question: New license number?

One more restriction on the Social Security Card is it CANNOT be laminated.

Washington too, so I suspect it’s a federal requirement.

https://www.dol.wa.gov/driverslicense/edlproof.html

I think some places require a proof or residency document. Power bill, rental agreement/ deed, whatever.

This is largely the whole point of Real ID, to prove who you are and that you are a legal resident. So I’m sure EVERY state must have this requirement. In CA at least, and probably everywhere, these docs must be ORIGINAL, no photocopies accepted, and must show your RESIDENCE address. If you get your mail at a PO Box, the document must show your RESIDENCE address as well. I assume these rules are diktats from on high, and thus the same everywhere.

I’m worried that the rules, as shown in the CA list of rules, are a bit ambiguous. I get all my mail at a PO Box. The “Address” sections of my electric and phone bills show my name and PO Box address. My residence address is shown elsewhere on the same page, under “Service Address”. I wonder if that is acceptable. Does anyone have California experience with this?

CORRECTION:
Per California rules (which I suspect are the rules everywhere), your documents to prove SSN must be original, but your residency documents may be copies.

My question about the ambiguity about PO Box addresses still stands.

You could request what the RMV called an “S number” that was not your SSN, but (interestingly enough) began with the letter “S” instead of a digit. I got an S number when I first got my license in 1994. You had to choose that as an option, though - otherwise they used your SSN. No idea when that changed.

I moved to Rhode Island for a year or so in 2002-2003, then came back to Massachusetts. The RMV gave me my old driver’s license number when I switched back, so clearly they associated that number with me. Same number I have now with a Real ID license, too.

I don’t have personal experience with this, but I found this in the California rules. https://realid.dmv.ca.gov/your-real-id-checklist/

So it sounds like your documents are okay if they contain both your PO box and your physical address.

My California DL of 50+ years and my new RealID version of two weeks bear the same number. The only change was to prefix the digits with a zero some decades back.

Correct. I took two utility bills with both POB# and road address.

The driver’s manual was unclear about verifying the SSN but an annual SocSec statement did the trick.

  1. Washington State (which I think is where racer72 is from) did (kind of). I’d had the same license forever.
    However, it was derived from your name and birthdate (if your name changed, your license number changed - but for people who never had a name change, you could have the same license number for decades). One of the “party tricks” was being able to tell someone their DL# if you knew those things about them. So not the most secure number out there. (It was also useful for identifying fake licenses made by people who had not done enough research/pattern matching to know how to fake the number correctly.)

  2. This year, I had to have my license renewed and they changed my number. It wasn’t tied to RealID (I didn’t get a RealID, though I probably should. My guess is that if I do get a RealID, I’ll keep this new, unfamiliar number.), they’re just doing it across the board for everyone who renews their license until they’ve replaced all the “old” numbers.

Completely dependent upon your state. Try Googling your state’s DMV + RealID, or Enhanced ID and a page similar to this NYS DMV page should be presented to you. A bit of a slog, but it clearly takes you through all iterations, choices and documentation demands of the NYS DMV.

I downloaded the PDF for a Replacement, typed in my info, printed it and have my Driv Lic, Passport, W-2 and other stuff ready to go. Now I just have to have a free day and a good book to read…

Texas here. I just renewed and got my REAL Id star. No change in DL number.

Yes, I did that. Still have questions.

Like you, I’ve gathered everything I can think of. Ready to seek an appointment tomorrow…