Realistic Cost of Building a Cabin

Me and my best girlfriend were idly daydreaming about buying property together in Minnesota, somewhere between the Twin Cities and Duluth, and we looked online and found several 5 acre properties between 15-25K. Between our two families that seems totally do-able, and all the sudden our daydreams seem like they might be possible. But we don’t know thing one about building a livable building.

How much would a rustic cabin with a well cost to build? How much does it cost to maintain something like that? We are not very wealthy people, and we’re thinking to buy the land now and work on clearing it and using it for camping for like 3 years before building. What kinds of stuff should be taken into consideration when doing something like this?

Rustic cabin can mean very different things to different people. I’ve built log cabins that are basically four walls and a roof, and others that have indoor plumbing, heating systems, and electricity. Also, construction materials and styles (log vs lumber, cut on site vs delivered, frame vs post and beam) can change things dramatically. Do you want electricity, plumbing, phone, etc? Or just some lanterns, a wood stove, and an outhouse?

We live in a log cabin/home in the middle of 15 acres. Here’s a pic. We’ve lived here since 2001.

A log home is an absolute pain in the ass. I so wish it was a standard brick home. Just my two cents.

Foundation is another big cost driver - do you want a slab, sono tubes, or a full basement? Are you planning on living there year round or just as a second home?

Just curious, but what makes the logs such a pain?

It may be just due to the *type *of log house we have (pine + chink). But I spend *many *weekends every summer caulking, painting the chink, applying stain and sealer, power washing, etc.

The splinters.

It totally depends how big you’re looking to go. A small one-room prefab cabin can be cheaper than a mobile home (depending on the distance it needs to be shipped, or if you “need” to build it yourself on-site, etc). If you want to design a custom blueprint for a 2-bedroom 2-bath with a loft and attached garage, it’s going to be much more expensive.

I would check out this link. He doesn’t say outright what the prices are like, but you could pick a few floorplans and contact him for a quote. He appears to be on the west coast. This is another website that has some very reasonable prices listed, although the place is in Texas and I don’t know how much it would cost to truck a house to MN. Here’s another, this is a log cabin manufacturer who’s actually in Minnesota. It doesn’t list their prices, but might be worth paying more for a local company to build the thing since shipping will be substantially cheaper.

With a pre-fab cabin, you’ll have a quality product and probably a warranty. I understand cost being a concern, but you gotta live in the thing. Also, have you investigated other kinds of small homes? Small homes, cabins included, don’t have to be expensive. I remember seeing some really *adorable *portable homes (I dearly wish I could remember what they’re called) that look almost like wooden wigwams. They’re very sturdy and waterproof and come with electricity and all that jazz. You could safely assemble one of those yourself with a few friends in under a day.

If you’re willing to live in a VERY small space, I love the idea of a tumbleweed tiny home:

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/

You’ll see several homes on trailers, but they can be built on foundations as well. I’ve seen several made ‘off grid’ with solar power and an outhouse.

I can’t help with the cabin, but drilling a well (and putting in a liner, pump, etc.) will run you somewhere around $10-$15 per foot. During this summer’s drought, well owners around here (where the water table is actually fairly shallow) were re-drilling down to 600 feet. So right there you’re looking at $6,000-$9,000.

If the site doesn’t have electrical service available, you’ll need to either have the power lines extended or get yourself a pretty fancy generator (and the fuel to power it.)

And if the area doesn’t have sewer service, you’ll need to install a septic tank.

Building a cabin is only part of it.

I love my log cabin. It’s at least 75 years old I’ve done plenty of maintenance since I got here 15 years ago. The first couple of years was a lot of work to rehab, but since then it hasn’t been bad at all. A lot depends on the wood that it’s made out of. Mine is made of White Cedar, and it’s highly rot resistant. I don’t have to rush to get the logs oiled all the time, the wood is fine after 75 years, it’ll be here for another 75.

You can find some small low cost cabin kits online. You can find kits for small cabins with a materials price of around $25,000. That wouldn’t include a foundation, but usually all the materials you’ll need to make a weather sealed cabin. These are fairly small, and there may still be tiny cabin kits available for less. But lowest price isn’t always best. The better logs will be materials like cedar, cypress, and hardwoods that can get very expensive. Cabins are easy to build, it’s like stacking up lincoln logs. But that’s just the walls. All the windows, doors, stairs, trim, roof, floors, and every other piece is as time consuming and difficult to build as with any other construction type. Sometime moreso. But it’s easy to expand a small cabin. You can cut new doors with a chain saw and attach more log rooms, or use other construction techniques.

If the property you’re looking at has a lot of rocks around, I’d consider building with those. Stone walls are long lasting, inexpensive, rot resistant, and can be left half finished without big problems. If you’re pouring a concrete foundation anyway you could walls made then and later faced with stones. Save the wood for the construction away from the ground. So at least a half wall of concrete stone or block, then up some more with logs, and traditional wood frame roof. Or skip log walls altogether and just go with the stone and a wood roof.

The sites for log cabins online are full of info. There are kits, builders, suppliers, and plans. You can count on the places that have been in business for a long time, and you’ll see that their prices are higher too. Like everything else, they cut corners to offer things at the lowest price. But you can easily price out the materials yourself from materials suppliers and see whether you’re getting a good deal if you buy a kit.

It’s all doable. It’s usually faster construction than conventional stick frame buildings that can be done by a few healthy people in reasonable time, but other than that I haven’t seen any real price advantage. The larger log cabins often cost more to erect than a conventional house of comparable size.

One thing I love about living in a log cabin, if I want to hang something on the wall, I just hammer in a nail where I want it.

Another important thing to consider - the woods is not suburbia. Strange people wander around, and know there is no surveillance or passing law enforcement, or good samaritans to observe and call them. before you buy a piece of land, see what small communities are nearby and whether the other cabin folk have break-in or vandalism problems. (I recall a news item where kids from a local group home escaped, broke into the isolated cabins, found a shotgun and ammunition, and proceeded to put a big round hole in every window, door, roof panel and floor panel. Major repairs) Do you want to be hauling the TV, DVD player, microwave, etc up and down every weekend?

On the same vein, you will be hauling a truckload of tools and supplies up and down each weekend… Maybe look into small prefabs that can be hauled up there.

The big question, as mentioned, is footings. Concrete work is expensive, and mixing your own in volume sounds like work and expensive. Paying a concrete truck to drive all the way out there will be expensive too.

If you’ve never built a house, better get some practice first.

I’m interested, honestly, in the cheapest way to have to do the least. Rustic can mean super rustic- I don’t need flush toilets, I’m cool with an outhouse, and my friend was getting all excited about being off the grid, so that’s even a possibility at first. I was even considering a trailer that we could haul up when we went.

My fantasy image of the place is more like slightly better than camping. I want to be able to drink beer and play board games on the weekends in the spring-summer-fall. I’m fine with using lamps and a woodstove and a cooler for my hot dogs. A tiny log cabin would be great, we were thinking we’d start with one with the plan of adding another after a couple of years. Presumably we’d improve as our lives improved… or wind up living there and roughing it if things went bad. :slight_smile:

It’s all pie in the sky right now, of course. And md2000, that’s true about wandering miscreants. It does freak me out some for sure.

Our log home has a type of chinking that is flexible and quite durable, I’ll have to look up the brand name, but it’s been in place for 12 years or so with no issues. DO you have the plaster-based type?

The Mother Earth News archives has articles on building log cabins based on people that did what you want to do. Some of them are old articles but I don’t think it matters when it comes to this subject.

I may not have found all of them so you can try another search if you want.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?search=log%20cabin

Please do check the zoning, in many rural areas it is now required by law to put in septic system, and unless the outhouse is grandfathered in out of the question.

Plus, with an outhouse, you periodically have to dig a new pit and move it, they get spiders and other creepie crawlies, and other issues.

That totally depends on the build and the amount of use. My parents’ cabin has an outhouse that hasn’t had to be moved/redug in the last 35 years, but it has a large, well designed pit, and is only lightly used.

Another idea - look into a a fancied up trailer. In southern Minnesota, some people are getting around paying property taxes on a cabin by moving a large travel trailer onto the sight instead of building. Because it’s not technically permanent, it’s not considered a building, so it’s not taxes as a cabin. Add a screen porch and a deck, and the building expenses are kept down while increasing the usable space.

Have you considered doing something like building a foundation and floor and putting a large tent over it the first year? Then, having spent time there, you will have a better idea of things like what amenities you can’t do without, where you want the windows, what the neighbors are like, etc. In other words, start out with the minimum and add to it over time.

You can always make the floor larger later.

Having known many owner builders and being one myself, I can attest that the surest road to failure is to dream too big. Dream small, then add.

In this economy, County tax assessors are fast catching onto that scam. And using criteria like ‘if it hasn’t been moved in 3 years, it is a permanent structure’, and taxing it accordingly. You can contest that, of course – go before the assessment appeals board, made up of locals who are paying their property taxes, or even appeal it in court before a judge who is paid from those property taxes. Good luck with that!

You should really consider buying a kit. Everything is pre cut and pre drilled. You just put it together.

Here’s some prices.

http://www.conestogalogcabins.com/pricelist.html