Thank you. 
You’re welcome.
No, he’s not. That’s typical of most of his posts here.
Slippery slope much? Nobody says you have to spend your every free moment improving yourself. But you’re a fool if you spend no time improving yourself.
Maybe I’m confusing him with someone else. 
This is exactly why that “there’s the little girl” claptrap makes me raise an eyebrow.
Rick Blumpkin, maybe?
The resemblance is uncanny.
What I don’t understand is why this is a surprise. Have you really *read *some of the people on here? Nazis, transphobes, pedophiles, transphobic Nazi pedophiles, racists, and an entire clown car of trolls in any thread that isn’t along the lines of “Ketchup on hot dogs???”
Thanks. What a loser. :rolleyes:
Do we have all that many of those?
Really guys, the original thread had some humor that failed, was called out, and mainly the followup failure to apologize and acknowledge it’s inadequacy was the problem. You really can’t expect too much once it gets here in the Pit.
And why should I necessarily decide that I will avoid every single thing that offends someone somewhere? How many times have people who voted Trump been demeaned on this board? Are you trying hard to avoid any comment that might offend them, yourself?
Besides, the poster I was responding to specifically made the point that regardless of what you think of it, this attitude is something that is many people default’s stance, based on their culture, education, etc…Those are things that aren’t trivial to change. Despite what you said, it does require efforts and attention to change one’s ways. And you have to think you should change your ways to begin with, which means a significant amount of soul searching, when, to begin with, you’re not convinced at all that the issue isn’t trivial, and that the offended have a good reason to be offended (for instance, how much time do you invest trying to figure out if you are terribly wrong and offensive when you criticize whichever group you happen not to like?) . So, no, definitely not trivial.
And many people, probably including yourself, and certainly including me, if they have to invest efforts in something, and in particular in changing themselves, won’t prioritize your particular pet peeves, but something which is important for them. I don’t know, let’s say change their attitude towards their spouse, try harder to improve their work prospects, live a healthier life… And even if they turn their attention to things outside themselves, it’s not particularly likely to be one of the thing you promote. Maybe they’ll try to pray more intently for peace in the middle east or something?
Plenty of things are wrong. And it is a pet issue. For instance I mentioned in my earlier example the exploitation of workers in the developing world. Is it less important than possibly sexist jokes? Shouldn’t you think of all the ways you’re participating in this exploitation? Trying hard to change your way of life accordingly? To devote a lot of time trying to do something about it? You could probably devote all your energy on this single issue and still fall short of achieving an ideal. And that’s only one issue you could spend your energy on. I could list hundreds of “wrong” things that could equally require your whole attention. Amongst all the issues you could be particularly bothered about, for some reason, it’s bigotry that annoys you most as your posting history shows. It’s exactly that : your pet issue. It’s not objectively more important than any other.
Yes, and faithful Christian are all offended when you use the name of the Lord in vain. And Muslims when you make a drawing of Mahomet. Patriots are offended when your criticize your country, and so on…Someone being offended doesn’t necessarily mean that you should refrain from the offending behavior.
You mean like the exploitation of workers in the developing world? The disappearance of wild species every year? The unsustainable consumption of energy? Political corruption? The absence of efforts to properly fight tropical diseases? What?
You can take relatively small steps, such as being aware of sexist speech.and avoid them, in order to make a small but necessary contribution to reducing sexism and misogyny, which collectively has negative effects on many people’s lives. Does that take up too much of your effort or time away from vanquishing cholera?
The important point is to be self-critical and not be self-satisfied. That goes a huge way toward making the world around you better. Is that not worth the effort?
Probably Rick Kitchen, uber liberal, rather than Rick Sanchez, man who is afraid of SJWs.
Minimizing the concerns of other people isn’t helpful.
That’s probably it. Okay, Rick, you’re not better than this. As you were.
Sorry, I wasn’t trying to minimize any concerns. I was trying to point out that acknowledging them is a step in the right direction.
I’m really, really not.
Edit: ninja’d by…well, everyone, apparently.
Your post before and this one are good examples of a conspicuous style of leftist discourse–mostly in academia though leaking out into social networks more and more–that I think is completely wrong-headed and counterproductive, which is why I have responded as I have.
For example, here you say that telling the truth, that bigots aren’t all intentional bigots, is “carrying water for the bigots.” No. The alternative, engaging in the false belief that bigots are unreachable non-humans who lack any decency, is neither accurate nor more effective at ending bigotry. So I won’t do it.
Neither your accusation that I’m tone policing nor your characterization of me as scolding is accurate. Indeed, saying that disagreement amounts to tone policing is another part of the new lefty discourse that I think is a huge mistake. Tone policing is a thing. Not every disagreement, including disagreements about rhetorical tactics, is tone policing–especially not when the disagreement stems from a fundamental disagreement about empirical facts.
It is also quite flawed to suggest that in any argument over bigotry one is obligated to address the bigots. I shouldn’t have to earn cookies from you or demonstrate my political correctness on the underlying issue in order to criticize your premises. And my lack of criticism of the bigoted statements, in the context when lots of other people are criticizing them, has precisely zero effect on them.
False.
Also false.
Odd for you to say, since you believe the right approach is not to give a shit about them and that they cannot be shamed or redeemed. I guess you think a good ally just performs disagreement with bigotry, even though it doesn’t change anything. I disagree.