Well, I’m out of town today so I don’t have time to go through this stuff with a fine toothed comb…but I’ll take a quick and dirty shot at it:
- Weakening Democracy: What does this mean exactly? What are the practical and demonstratable aspects of how our Democracy has been weakend?
a. 2004 Election: Huh?
b. Redistricting in Texas and Colorado: Double huh?? Redistricting has been going on for significantly longer than GW OR the Republicans have been in power. Democrats ALSO have gotten advantages in the past through redistricting, so I fail to see how this does anything at all for your ‘point’.
c. Secrecy: Again, secrecy in the government goes back significantly longer than GW or the Republicans being in power…we have Congressional oversight to theoretically make sure we, the people, are represented. As far as I know GW hasn’t revoked that.
i. Cheney: :smack: What exactly ABOUT chaney…or is your problem with just Chaney in general?
ii. General Secrecy Policy: Care to elaborate?
(a) Valerie Plame: Definitely a fuckup by the administration. However, its not like such things have never happened before during OTHER administration. Still, like a blind squirel you have found a nut.
blah blah blah. Most of the rest are in the ‘care to elaborate and make an actual point category’. I’ll just hit the highlights from here on out…my time is limited and my connection sucks.
i. Medicare Prescription Drug Coverage: I agree. Its this kind of liberal pandering bullshit that I can’t stand about Bush. 500 BILLION dollars?? Gods. However, I seriously doubt that was YOUR point.
ii. Media Consolidation Issue: Huh?
e. Propaganda: :rolleyes: One sides ‘propaganda’ is the other sides ‘facts’…and vice versa.
ii. Denouncing of Critics as traitors: Cite for Bush doing this? Or do you count any Republican supporting nutball for this one? Who exactly denounced ‘critics’ as ‘traitors’? And why haven’t I seen any shootings for treason??
iii. Periodic Announcements of Vague Warnings: Should the government let us just be fat dumb and happy? Do you have a cite that they announced warnings where there was absolutely no evidence there might have been a threat?
- Failure to Address Terrorist Threat: FAILURE to address the threat? Cite that they have failed to do this, and not just that they haven’t done what YOU think they should.
a. Afghanistan: What exactly ABOUT Afghanistan?? I’d say that taking out the Taliban was a positive step. Certainly THEY are aware that we did something there.
b. Homeland Security Department: What exactly ABOUT the Homeland Security Department are you, er, talking about? The fact it exists at all? That it should be bigger? Smaller? Wear a dress? What?
c. First Responders: On 9/11? What exactly is your problem with how the government responded on 9/11 and how do you think a Gore (for example) administration would have handled it differently?
(most of the rest of these are the same answer as b…i.e. want to detail exactly what your problem is on these topics instead of giving cryptic non-sentence responses?)
Mishandling of Iraq War: Well, I’ll agree and even go furture…HAVING the Iraqi war was a mistake. Thats certainly a valid criticism. A needle in the haystack.
Tax Cuts for the Rich: Its a debatable point whether or not this stimulates the economy.
Education: Agreed. Bush has poured money into Education, and IMHO thats pouring money down the drain. He’s increased the size of the Dept of Education and is running amok like a liberal with someone else’s money burning a whole in his pocket…but I seriously doubt that was your point.
Association with Religious Right: Distasteful to me, however again what has been the PRACTICAL effect of this? Do you have any cites that said association has had any impact at all?
a. Science: Care to elaborate?
b. Gays: Sorry to say this is a majority position of the citizens of the US (for now). Bush’s stance is the popularist stance, and while I don’t personally agree with him, its not like he’s holding down the majority of US citizens and forcing them to this position against their collective wills.
Attack on Liberty: Again, whats the PRACTICAL and demonstratable aspects of these attacks on liberty? WHat exactly is your problem with the Patriot Act (and act II), and how exactly HAS it effected every day Americans liberty? Not vague handwaving but actual point.
d. Attacks on Free Speech: Cite?
Future Supreme Court Appointments: Damn, you can predict the future? Whats next weeks lottory numbers going to be in New Mexico??
Environment: Care to elaborate on these? I agree that Bush has not been an environmentalist president, but I don’t see the disaster you seem to be implying either.
a. Appointment of industry insiders to regulatory posts
b. Changing of regulations
Foreign Policy: Depends on your perspective I suppose, but the US (and all the other UNSC members) have ALWAYS acted ‘arrogant’
a. Arrogant, confontational attitude: Again, it depends on your perspective I suppose. Bush wanted the other nations of the world to assist us in getting rid of Saddam. Now, you can agree or disagree that this was important (I don’t think it was, personally), but they DID try. When it was appearent that most other countries were going to opt out, Bush et al did what they felt they must. Just like other nations of the past (many who opposed the US on this) have done.
Giveaways to Corporate and Political Allies
a. Halliburton: Afaik they were the most qualified for that job, being as they are experts in the field. Certainly there were some less than legit deals going down…when exactly AREN’T there with our government. You are going to need to lay out your case a bit to SHOW that these ‘giveaways’ were any different or outside the norm, and from what I’ve read in the past its going to be a hard case for you to make.
b. “Faith-based” organizations: Practical effect? Cite for WHY such organizations are being funded…i.e. the devil is in the details on this one. Its easy to simple yammer ( ) about ‘faith-based’ organizations being funded without bringing up those pesky details.
b. Tax Cuts: You mentioned this already. I loved mine, thanks.