I thought that was clever and wish they’d done it more… guess I’ll have to wait for the extended edit. I have a feeling one or two of those were left on the editing floor.
I can’t believe think Jack Nicholson phoned-in, camera-mugging, bloated and half-assed Joker is even a good performance, let alone superior to Ledger’s performance. I think it’s one of Nicholson’s worst.
Anyway, Ledger’s was very good.
Did you see it when it first came out or some time later? Because it was a pretty successful performance at the time and before Jack was known for playing that one-note character in too many movies.
I just did not get the love for Heath. It was nothing special and his joker was actually less interesting to me and just plain psycho.
I saw it the night it opened.
If you took a moment to interpret, you’d understand that the point of my “babbling” was that a good movie will not feature most of the key sequences in its trailers and will save more than a few good ones for the real presentation. I felt it was a relatively weak movie wrapped around a big trailer with a paper-thin plot to string it all together. I’ve watched a trailer or two in my time and the experiences of the films weren’t “dampened”, so spare me the chiding. There are a lot of things I may not know about, but I still see commercials about them all the time, and I was seeing commercials for this constantly whether I wanted to or not, so what rock were you living under to have not seen any? Or did you see them all and simply won’t acknowledge that my argument has some merit? According to your absolute logic, I’d be unable to ever see a trailer again, lest my enjoyment of all the films they’re attached to be ruined. In the case of this film, I’d have had to stop watching TV, stop going to the movies, stop using the internet, and stop reading papers and magazines to have avoided exposure to the monster that was this movie’s marketing campaign.
So long as you’re off on the subject of quantum physics, I guess I’ll just say thanks for the tip, Einstein.
Why? Are you under the impression that the filmmakers create the trailer or somethin’?
Did someone tie you to a chair or something? I swear to you I didn’t see a trailer for this movie, and I honestly don’t even remember having to dodge one. Maybe it’s become so second nature for me to dodge trailers now that I don’t notice it anymore, or maybe my eyes just aren’t glued to television and advertisements 24/7.
Now you’re just projecting. I dunno what absolute logic you’re talking about. YOU said the trailer ruined the movie for you. I said don’t watch them, then. I’m not campaigning for a law to ban movie trailers. If you CAN’T change the channel, CAN’T help yourself from loading a trailer on the internet and watching it, CAN’T see a newspaper article without reading it, etc, then it sounds like a personal problem. Most of us can do that stuff with ease.
No problem, numbnuts.
I don’t watch trailers for movies I know I’ll be interested in because sometimes they can ruin certain scenes. I avoid those Hollywood shows that talk about the movie, I don’t talk about it with other people (beyond a “yeah I want to see it too”), and I avoid reading anything about it. I’m happy to say that while I knew Harvey Dent was in the movie I had no idea that Two-Face would be making an appearance. I really thought they would just set up Dent as a good character and have him be the villain in the next movie.
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And yet I am the opposite way. Before going to see a movie, I’ll look up the script online so I know how it ends. Then, rather than spending the whole damn movie trying to figure out what the heck is going on, I can focus on the casting, acting, cinemetogrpahy, the blending of the soundtrack and action, etc.
Yeah, I hate surprises. It comes with the job.
Sadly I have to agree with you here. One side of me says “Wow, something important happened there but it moved too quick for me to catch it. Maybe I’ll catch it the second time around or watch it frame-by-frame when I get the DVD.”
But unfortunately I’ve done this with Nolan’s action scenes before and nothing gets cleared up. They still don’t make much sense.
They showed an extended clip of the Batpod scene on TV recently and I re-watched it in slo-mo via DVR. There a part where he’s drving down an alley and there is some trash blocking the left half. He blasts it with some missles but the trash falls to completely block his way and he then drives through it anyway???
I’m curious to watch the sonar/hostage/henchmen fight scene in slo-mo to see if it also is a garbled mess.
Since your attention span seems a bit selective when reading my posts, Cisco, I’ll clarify for you … I never stated anything about the trailer(s) ruining the movie for me. I said that every major action sequence was featured in the trailers and commercials, and that in my opinion, a good marketing campaign will save at least a few good sequences from marketing for the final cut to give the viewer something they would not have already seen during a promotional spot. That was all. I never said the movie was ruined or spoiled for me or that it changed my opinion of the film. You did. Talk about projecting …
You may not have said the words “the trailers ruined the movie for me,” but you expressed the sentiment.
You’re just trying to win an argument at this point and anyone reading the thread can see that, and you know it, so it’s pointless to continue this.
I saw this movie today. I probably looked at my watch 4-5 times to see when it would finally end. Near the end, when Batman was pleading with Two-Face not to kill the kid, my girlfriend called me on my cellphone. I thought for about 1/2 a second and decided to get up, walk out of the theater, and take the call. While we were still talking, the movie ended. I didn’t care.
What a disappointment.
9-11 themes just seem so self-indulgent. These things, including terrorist attacks, have happened in hundreds of places, but it’s only a BIG DEAL when it happens here, in the U.S., to us? I mean, why don’t the Japanese have post Tokyo subway attack themes? Same for any other country that’s suffered a terrorist attack.
Other than seeing posters around (unavoidable), an IMAX preview of the bank robbery (which we went to specifically, in fact I started a Pit thread about it), and watching the trailer once online (by choice), I managed to stay away from all the media hullabaloo. I suppose not watching TV helps, but I’m on the Internet, read papers and magazines and go to movies ALL the time. I just chose not to read, look or listen because I didn’t want to “get used” to the sights. In the case of previews in the theater, I simply closed my eyes and didn’t open them until the preview was over. Not saying that’s what you or everybody else should have done, and I do understand about having everything spoiled by all the advance media, but that’s what I did, and I’m glad.
After Anton Chigurh, it’s hard to see the coin-flip live-or-die decision as being very original. Even if other stories utilized this as a plot device before NCFOM came along, it will always be tied to that film in my mind.
Probably because the Tokyo subway attack only killed twelve people. That’s a horrible tragedy, to be sure, but there have been traffic accidents in Tokyo that have killed more people. It’s not really comparable to what happened on 9/11. I think any culture that experienced such a sudden loss of life and massive destruction (including the demolishing of a major national landmark) would be similarly traumatized, and that trauma would be reflected in the popular culture for some time. Japan, for example, has still not fully exorcised Hiroshima and Nagasaki from the national consciousness. Themes of nuclear devastation remain fairly common in Japanese media, and will probably remain so long after the generation that lived through WWII has passed on.