lissener, I based my post on what I saw in this thread, which was you going overboard defending yourself against the horrible accussation of using a very stupid word incorrectly. To me, posting multiple times and picking apart others’ posts is going overboard and being a dick–in other words, attacking. You are defending yourself by attacking the people who dare to criticize you, just like you have done to me. So yes, I used the word “attack” because to me, that is the word for your behavior. I realize in hindsight that I should have something like said “defend himself by attacking you.” I don’t know the difference between the words “strategy” and “tactics”, either, or a host of other war-related words. So sue me.
Feel free to keep insinuating that I am lying, but my post was based on this thread. I say again: I don’t know anything about you. I am not part of some conspiracy. Seeing now that you can’t help yourself, I can see that this might be a problem for you in other threads, but my post was based on this thread and only this thread.
Again, feel free to insinuate that I wasn’t trying to help you, but I was. The part of my post that you conveniently didn’t quote was the “take a deep breath…learn to back off and you will be happier” part. I really meant that. I am getting the feeling you really can’t do that, and for that I am sorry. I think you think I did this just to poke the bear, but I didn’t. I was pissed at you for being a dick, but I also thought you needed (and could accept) some good advice.
I don’t mean you any harm. I am sorry if my post touched on something painful. I wish you nothing but peace.
Getting away from lissener for a moment and back to the subject of the thread…
“You owe me a new <piece of hardware, such as monitor, keyboard…>”
It’s obviously hyperbole that’s intended to make the poster of the joke / funny story / witty comment feel good, but it comes across as saccharine sentiment. It reminds me a little of those people we all know who laugh embarassingly long and loudly at others’ jokes, due to their own insecurity.
Yeah you keep saying that, in a general way, but you keep not showing me the quote where I “attacked” anybody.
This absolutely ridiculous and transparently dishonest. Your very first words in this thread was warning that I was about to attack somebody. Apparently you think we can’t scroll up and read what you actually wrote.
You “conveniently” said that AFTER your “warning.” You seem to think that saying something like that negates everything you’ve said before. It *so *doesn’t work that way.
Fuck you you patronizing jerk. For you to backpedal to a patronizing pat on the head after saying “watch out, he’s gonna attack you” is shameless and dishonest. Take responsibility for your words.
Oh whatever you lying bitch. An egregiously offensive character slam–“watch out he’ll attack you!”–followed immediately by a sarcastic and patronizing pat on the fuzzy widdle head does not give you the wiggle room you think it does.
Man you are a piece of work. If you had followed my initial response to you with an honest acknowledgement that your “warning” was unfair (not to say childish and incendiary), I’d have dropped this immediately. The fact that you keep coming back and trying to convince me that your offensive and incendiary “warning” was really just your nurturing side showing through is insulting to my intelligence.
Take responsibility for your own words. Apparently you think that admitting you lobbed an illconsidered attack on another person’s character is going to destroy your credibility or something. On the contrary; my respect for you as a poster would not have suffered nearly as much if you had taken responsibility for your actions like a grownup. This bullshit backpedalling and revisionism is doing more harm to your credibility than acknowledging the consequences of your words.
You used to be pretty much under my radar as well. Now I think of you as a thoughtless driveby insult-lobber who’s not grownup enough to take responsibility for your words, even when you get called out on them. So I guess there has been progress of a kind.
(And I still have an apology in escrow for you if you can cite a specific quote that supports your assertion that I was “attacking” anyone. Redefining “attack” as “defend” doesn’t count.)
Hi lissener,
Why are you having long arguements with multiple people in the same thread?
Maybe it would be better to walk away or ignore them. Show you’re bigger.
Just a thought.
Seriously: why is always up to the “defender” to show he’s bigger?
Why aren’t pointing out to Brynda and Daniel that they have something to answer for in this exchange as well?
Why, in other words, are you contributing to my still-not-diminishing sense that I’m a lone voice howling in the wilderness, by seeming to “throw your lot” in with them?
I mean this question in all seriousness. I appreciate what I think you’re trying to do, but the math works out that now YOU’RE telling me to shut up too. As defensive as I can sometimes get, that’s not a very calming message to receive.
I tend to shut up when I am able to go away with the feeling that some sane person out there, somewhere, has heard what I’ve said and understood it. For better or for worse, just giving up and letting the ankle biters chalk up a win by forfeit. That’s the strategy that I employed for too long; the strategy that has resulted in this swiftboating of my character.
Why do you care what some random asshole on the internet thinks about you? Seriously, why? I’ve had people post things about me, both here and on other boards, which are so wildly inaccurate that anyone who knew anything about me would know were complete fabrications. I don’t get my panties in a twist about it. Generally, I’ll laugh it off, or if it’s some place where I can post anon without violating board rules, I’ll take pot shots at myself, if I’m bored and don’t have anything else to do. It wouldn’t surprise me if there was a tuckerfansucks.com out there somewhere. I don’t know, and I don’t care. People are either going to like you or dislike you, often with no rhyme or reason to why they feel that way. So why get bent out of shape about it? It’s not like their comments will cost you your job/loved ones or whatever.
The “insults” aren’t what’s important, what matters are the folks out there who like you and will help you when the chips are down. Lord knows a number of Dopers out there have gone out of their way to help me when I’ve had problems, and many of them are folks that I was shocked to find out that they knew who I was. I’m eternally greatfull to those folks, and at the end of the day, that’s what’s important.
Well, you can’t report your own post, so I asked a passing mod to close it. I’ll just have find a way to live with the fact that the squeakiest wheels around here are way less interested in what is actually said, than they are in how you say it. I wish I could figure out a way to get people to read my posts for content, but I guess it just ain’t gonna happen.
If somebody, once, came in to say, instead of “lissener why do you bother,” something like, “you know, lissener’s right; Brynda’s first post was unnecessarily insulting, and her protestations that she was only expressing concern don’t ring true,” that would last me a long time.
I am simply never going to fully understand the way things work around here.
Hey, lissener, I think you’re right. I’m not sure about Daniel (sounds like he just really has a thing about “meme” semantics, I didn’t see that as personal), but Brynda sounds like someone who’s read one too many snarkboard threads on you, decided to try and become a snarkboard hero, and now is backpedalling furiously.
I don’t care whatsoever about the meme thing, but I will chime in to let you know, lissener, that not everyone thinks you’ve gone batshit in terms of behavior (or, at least, not me). One of my board pet peeves is pile-ons veiled behind patronizing ‘calmness’. Not that I necessarily think that’s 100% what’s happening here, but I totally know what you’re talking about. Arguments should be about content, not discourse style, and people should be held accountable for what they say, not based on whether they’re “riled up” or “calm”. It drives me off the deep end to see people treat others like little kids just because they’re supposedly being too passionate. I’m talking about stuff like “I don’t mean you any harm. I am sorry if my post touched on something painful. I wish you nothing but peace.” (no offense, Brynda). It’s just clearly a strawman of sorts made to make the other person look like a lunatic. It’s like if somebody asks, “Hi, could I please get sprinkles on my ice cream? I think you forgot,” replying, “Woooooah there buddy, calm down, everything’s gonna be okay! Take a chill pill dude, breath in, breathe out!” to belittle their legitimate point. (I’m talking more about the post-argument pile-on here than the actual meme argument.)
I second this. I did think your reaction to LHoD was somewhat out of proportion, but it appears there’s a history between you two (that I hadn’t been aware of) which would explain your reaction.
I know it’s hard to adopt Tuckerfan’s attitude toward on and off SDMB negativity, but if you can it will make life a lot easier for you. We’re all just streams of more or less random electrons here, after all.
If you want to blow off steam about something, I’d be happy to listen via email, offer you an off-board venting target.
Now, about SDMB pet peeves: I hate obscure pop culture references/catchphrases that leave me – but since my often stems from the fact I’m way out of the mainstream, and plenty of other folks do get the references, the :mad: induced is turned upon myself.
Oh, and I :rolleyes: people who bitch about how much they hate smileys.
You know Smilies are just a cheap way to indicate the emotion of your post or give it some easy context. It is the sign of a lazy post or one who does not have sufficient grasp of the written word.
I hate when there is a long thread and someone posts in the last page a comment which was made in the first page. I was guilty of this once, but learned to read the whole thread.
Ok. I have explained here several times that I said what I said to lissener because I didn’t like the way he was responding to those who disagreed with him in this thread. I realized tonight that the reason it bothered me so much was that IMHO, it was bullying–dare to disagree with me, and I will hound you to death with multiple posts, etc. He called me a liar and said that can’t be my motivation, I must know the meme about him. Well, I don’t, and when I say that, I get called a bitch.
Now I get accused of trying to be a snarkboard hero and I don’t even read the damn things.
Can I please get a break here? I’m not lying. Only I know my motivation for posting, and I have repeated it several times. Disagree with me all you like about whether he was overboard or not, but please stop the character assassination. I didn’t lie.
Oh, and Tuckerfan, I am one of those “random assholes” who has helped you out. Maybe you forgot, but I drove out 840 one morning to check on your stranded car. I was happy to do it, but it kind of stings now, you know?
You still refuse to reference exactly what it is I said that justified your personal attack on my character.
That’s very funny.
It’s not character assassination to preemptively accuse me attacking someone I had no intention of even responding to? Aren’t you even a little embarrassed for continuing to defend that?
I just read your closed thread, and got caught up with this one. I had been reading, but stopped reading it shortly after Dorkness became an asshole to you, for no reason I could see. I’ve used the word “meme” the way you did for years. Obviously I was misinformed, but I’ll probably use it that way again if I forget.
I’ll use your words, but they’re sincere, not sarcastic.
You (lisssener) are right. Brynda’s “attack” post was unnecessarily and shockingly insulting, for no reason at all, especially based on what’s contained in this thread (said because I DID read your posts for content and you’ve been in the right all along), and she’s not only a liar, she’s a coward too, and deserves no break whatsoever. She owes you a massive apology, which of course you’ll never get because she hasn’t got it in her, what with her backtracking and trying to change what she said and not actually paying attention to what you’ve said.
So, to make this on-topic…I really hate assholes who like being assholes for the sake of being an asshole (and I am NOT looking at lissener).
