Recliner buttons, too lazy for a pole

So we got reclining theater seats in our moho. There are two buttons, one in front of the other. The seats were wired so that the front button made the seats recline, and the back button made the seats unrecline. For 6 months I (the wifey person) complained that the buttons were wired backwards.

While doing other stuff Mrsin switched the wires so my seat now goes back when I push the back button and forward when I push the front button (he is a great guy). Recently, our daughter and her daughter came to stay with us and one was in my seat and the other was in his seat with the original button configuration. Both independently questioned why Mrsin’s chair button configuration was wrong.

So is this a boy/girl thing? Additional input, son-in-law and son think the original wiring was correct.

I’m trying to picture how the buttons are laid out, are they on the arm? If you are laying further back, presumably your arm is further back as well, if the buttons are on the arm or the side. If that is the case it might make sense for the original configuration with the back button “unreclining” the seat because it could be easier to reach or the first button that your finger comes across.

I don’t know if this will help answer your question. A few years ago I had a chance to play a video game. I think it was on an XBOX, but I know it had the standard sort of game controller. It was a first-person-shooter type of game where you steer your point-of-view with the joystick under your left thumb. If you want to look and turn to the left, you press the joystick left.

So what if you want to look up? If you think of holding the controller vertically in front of you, then you press the joystick up to look up. I couldn’t do that. My best guess is that it stems from my time in airplanes, or playing flight-sim type games. If you you push the stick (or yoke) in an airplane forward, that lowers the nose. If you imagine the game controller horizontal (as if it was resting in your lap), you push the joystick forward to look down. And other people must have the same issue, because there was a setting in the game to configure which way it would respond to up and down on the joystick. As I remember, the default was the way that felt unnatural to me.

As for the recliner, it depends on how you think of the button. If you think that pushing a button wills the chair to move in that direction, then you’re right. If you think that pushing a button is akin to pushing the chair (i.e. pushing the front button is like pushing the front of the chair and forcing it backwards) then Mrsin is correct.

The buttons are on the inside of the arm on the chair. When you recline the button basically stays in the same place. For what it’s worth I have short arms. There is really no difference in pushing either button whether reclined or not.

As far as video games go I play FPS on PS4/3 all the time, I’m currently OP2 solo on borderlands 2. In addition I used to own an airplane and have a pilot’s license. This is just a weird one off situation of boys vs girls feelings about recliner controls.

Do you press the joystick forward to look down, or up to look up? And is it common for these types of games to let you configure which way it works?

I use the standard config. Right stick up to look up and down to look down. Left stick up to go forward, down to go backwards.

It makes sense to have the forward button make the seat upright, while the rear button makes the seat recline. My manual recliner has a lever on the side. Forward = upright, back = recline. I can’t imagine it any other way. FWIW, I’m a man.

Unless your thread title is about dancing, I think you mean “poll”.

:dancing_women:

Oh!..poll, not pole! Makes much more sense now!

But what’s ‘moho’ mean? Anybody?

Short for Mostly Houston?

Motor home, if I had to guess, but I don’t know how often they have reclining theater seats in them.

I was also trying to figure out what a moho was as well as what the pole was for, to push the buttons? That’s pretty lazy, I was thinking, not only to have a motorized recliner, but needing a (primative) remote control to operate it.

I have a similar issue with my Toyota Prius shifter. The shifter is on the dash, it’s basically like a little joystick. You push it up to switch into reverse and pull it down to go into drive. It’s ass backward for American sensibilities. However…

When I took a trip to Madrid a few years ago I noticed that the signs in the airport were the opposite of the way signs are done in the USA. A sign directing you to go straight ahead had an arrow pointing straight down. Signs telling you something is behind you had arrows pointing straight up.

I honestly can’t decide which one is right or wrong. I think it’s just different, so the “right” way is just what you’re used to.

(After owning and driving the car daily for ten years now I still occasionally put it in the opposite gear than I intended!)

“Pole” threw me, too. Before there were TV remotes, my dad tried to rig up a pole to operate the TV controls, but they were rotary knobs then, that somebody (never my dad) in the living room audience had to get up and walk over to the TV to raise of lower the volume, change the channel (to the other one), or readjust the vertical hold to stop the picture from scrolling down on the screen.

For the benefit of those of you who were not born yet, turning the relevant knob clockwise. would raise the volume or channel number from 2 to 13… Clockwise meant that the hands (pointers) on a clock would turn so that they went from left to right at the top of the round clock face (which clocks had in those days), going from 12 to 1.

Relevant to my post just above, I have an old-fashioned stove in my apartment, with rotary knobs to control the cooking elements’. They turn counter-clockwise to go from low to high heat. Which is the opposite of just about every other rotary knob control I can remember ever seeing. Yet, it seems perfectly natural, and I think every stove since forever has been like that. Maybe because it is the only mechanical device operated primarily by women. I think my mom’s iron did the same.

My water faucets too, now that I think about it. (I had to get up and go and turn them on, to see which way they turn.) Counter-clockwise to increase the volume, the opposite of a radio…

Who is to say which of these arbitrary conventions is right or wrong? Here, let me paraphrase Dave Barry: I am. :smiley: “Up” associated with “forward” is a natural consequences of perspective, which the Spaniards, although they occasionally make some decent wine, apparently don’t know nuthin’ about.

I think I’ve seen manual shifters (though not automatic ones) where reverse was somewhere off to the front and way over to the side, usually the left IIRC, plus required some special motion like a button press or push down to engage. I think the idea was to get it well away from anywhere where you were manually shifting through the forward gears, so it kind of made sense from a safety standpoint even if it was non-intuitive.

As for the chair, the front-most button should mean chair goes up and forward, the back button should mean recline, down and backward. Glad to have cleared that up! :wink:

The knobs on my stove turn clockwise when going from low to high, but the settings (“LOW”, “MED”, “HI”, and “LITE”) are written on the knob; so if you read them in that order you’re looking counter-clockwise. It’s a gas stove if that makes any difference.

Historically, nicer faucets with separate valves for hot and cold turned opposite directions. IOW, CCW = on for the hot, while CW = on for the cold. Or as the users probably thought of it: turn knobs outwards for more water, inward for less.

It was cheap mass-produced faucets that first deviated from that standard with both hot and cold being (typically) CCW=loosen=on, CW=tighten=off. Like a hose bib or other industrial valve.

Nowadays most kitchen and bath faucets use a single handle control. So the issue no longer arises as much. But any decent modern faucet with separate valves will still be outwards = on, inwards = off.