Recommend a small, simple point-and-shoot digital camera?

My wife, who is an artist, but definitely not a photographer, would like a very small and simple point-and-shoot digital camera to take shots of things she sees that might make a good painting.

She is down at the bottom of the list as far as techno stuff goes, so it need not even have a zoom (but OK if it does), needs a viewfinder as well as LCD screen, not high amount of megapixels. If it has a flash, there has to be be an easy way for her to turn it off. Oh, yeah,not too expensive.:smiley:

Any menu on any device that has more than a few choices turns her off completely. OTOH, she is a very talented artist.

Any suggestions?

I would suggest looking at one of the Sony Cybershot models - excellent pictures, modest price, easy to use, small.

I’ve been looking into this for a couple of weeks. I was hoping to buy a simple digital camera this weekend, but when I calculated out the money, I decided it was more important to, you know, eat. But I’ll get it soon. And at least now, my Dave Ramsey-style emergency fund is in place! :slight_smile:

I was looking at, among others, the Canon SD1100IS ($280) or the Casio EX-Z77RD ($160).

From reading reviews at www.dpreview.com and other places, it seems that small point-and-shoot cameras are loaded with all kinds of whiz-bang software features that may rarely get used. Several models I was looking at have a face-recognition feature which apparently picks faces out of the image and focuses on them. There are also things to tint pictures, modes that take movies, and all kinds of other things.

But the biggest thing that improves picture quality is a better-quality lens, and there’s no way to get that without adding expense. I suspect that a better-quality lens needs to be larger and have more parts, and that requires more mechanical and optical complexity, which is not getting cheaper the way electronics is.

Another thing I’ve read is that you can have too many megapixels. Apparently, on small point-and-shoot cameras, the image sensor is physically small, and as they cram more pixels onto it, the individual pixels get smaller, and therefore more sensitive to electrical noise.

Larger, more expensive cameras, such as digital “single-lens reflex” cameras (DSLRs), have physically larger lenses that don’t introduce as much distortion or colour artifacts. They also have physically-larger sensor chips that might not have as much noise on each pixel as a point-and-shoot with the same number of pixels. Of course, they are also larger in general, and more expensive. The cheapest one I’ve seen is around $600 Canadian, and the one I’d eventually like to get is around a thousand.

Electrical noise in a picture looks like snow on an old TV screen. When taking pictures in low-light conditions, a camera with more megapixels in the same size sensor will take a noisier picture than opne with fewer. For that reason, I’m going to get a camera with around 8 megapixels, rather than something with 10 or 12 megapixels.

Another thing to look at is what kind of memory card the camera uses. There are a squillion different kinds of memory cards, but the most common seem to be the Compact Flash card and the Secure Digital (SD) card. DSLR cameras often use the Compact Flash card. Sony cameras use the Sony Memory Stick, but not many others do. There are also the xD card, and probably others.

Each type of card has a number of variants as well. Newer variants are physically smaller and/or can store data faster.

SD cards seem to be the most common now among small cameras, and they’ve really come down in price. I saw a 16-gigabyte SD card on sale at Future Shop for $200! (For reference, that 16-gig card will hold roughly 4000 highest-quality highest-resolution pictures from the Canon SD1100IS camera (each picture is around 3.5 megabytes, say round it up to 4, so that’s 1000 pictures in 4 gigabytes, and 4000 in 16 gigabytes)).
The store also sells one 8-gig card at the same price as a two-pack of four-gig cards ($99).

Here’s the kicker though: many cameras can’t access all of a large memory card. It’s maddeningly-difficult to find out what the maximum card size is for each camera. The camera I’m thinking of buying seems to have a 4-gigabyte upper limit; that will decide which size of card I get.

SD cards 4 gigs or larger say SDHC on them; the camera has to be SDHC compatible to read the larger size. 2gigs or below are okay with both SDHC and non-SDHC cameras.

Now, the preceding was all to do with SD cards. If you’re getting a Sony, you’ll need a MemoryStick card. The same store has an 8-gig MemoryStick card for $169, so they’re a little more expensive, but not much.

Here’s the Wikipedia article on memory cards, but many of the formats it lists are not used in cameras.

Hope this helps!

I have a Sony Cybershot DSC-W30, and I love it. It’s not great for action shots – the shutter is pretty slow – but it’s great for what I use it for, which is mostly taking pictures of things I knit and sew and taking pictures at family events and get-togethers with friends. Oh, and of my cat, of course.

I find it takes the best pictures in natural light with the flash off in the Auto Adjustment setting. For low-light pictures, I usually don’t bother with the low-light settings, but just increase the available light by moving around lamps and stuff and not using the flash. I don’t like the way the flash washes out most photographs, and if you don’t use it, you don’t get red-eye.

All the pictures in my Flickr account except the one of me sitting were taken with this camera if you want to see some examples. Most of them were taken in natural light, but the ones of the green and blue/green/white washcloths were taken with a compact fluorescent in a desk lamp for lighting.

I bought my camera refurbished from Sony because I’m a cheapskate, and I could get a better camera than I’d be able to afford otherwise that way. It was $110, including shipping. I’m not sure how they are regularly, but it came with the usual warranty, despite being refurbished.

ETA: I have a 2 GB memory card that I bought for $40 from Radio Shack (I think; it was a chain store, at least). I have never, ever filled it up, but I regularly download the photos off my camera and delete crappy ones as soon as I take them.

Thanks, Sunspace, for a very good summation. I’ve been pouring through all the lists, and one thing I know, there are too damn many digital cameras out there! I have a good Casio, but it’s too much for my wife to understand, and too big too.

I do like the Exilim you suggest, which seems to meet our criteria, and especally because it will take a SD card (I have several on hand), and is small. I’ll keep looking, but I appreciate your little essay on the subject.

I also have an Exilim - I bought it in October, and I find it very easy to use in general - though every once in a while I’ll hit some button I didn’t expect and have to figure out how to get the screen back to the way I wanted it.

Over in my Flickr account , the recent photos, any taken since October, were taken with the Exilim. Older ones were taken with a 4 or 5 year old camera - I think I Fuji Coolpix, but I’m not positive without dragging the camera out. :

I like the Sony W line. I think the W150 is an excellent camera.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665327471

It has an in camera steady-shot that compensates for shaky hands, an EASY button (that automates most functions) and takes really nice 8.1 MP images. For price, you can step down to the W120 or W130 or up to the W170.

It comes in pretty colors too:

http://www.cyberscholar.com/sony/cameras/DSC_W150_training1.cfm
http://www.cyberscholar.com/sony/cameras/DSC_W120_training1.cfm

Oooh, that looks nice. I’d been confining myself to cameras that take SD cards, but I may reconsider. It says it can support a 16-gig MemoryStick card!

The Canon SD-series are small, solidly built, with excellent features and top quality image quality. The SD850 and the SD1100 are good choices from that line. The Sony W-series is also good.

Here’s CNet’s buying guide: