Recommendations on a Blu-ray player?

My dad has a hi def television, and wants a Blu-Ray player for Christmas. I don’t really know anything about these. Checked out a couple local stores (Best Buy, Wallmart), and they run from $179 to over $300. They all claim to run in “full 1080p” and enhance playback of normal dvd’s. There’s something about memory slots, which he wouldn’t use, and audio system hookups, which also wouldn’t be used (no stereo or theater to hook it to).

Best buy has a Samsung player for $250. I think it’s this one. What’s the difference between that, and, say, this? I’d really like to keep it to $250 or less, my cash flow is limited, but I don’t want to just get the $179 player if it’s going to be junk. Anyone have any thoughts or opinions?

Granted this is over your price that you listed…but look in to getting a Playstation 3

The built in blu-ray is a good one, plus since the PS3 has all internet capabilities (wired and wireless) you can get all of the blu-ray system updates automatically, plus access the cool blu-ray live stuff.

I am by no means an expert in this, but I do know that the players are made differently. The ones that have an uplink and are able to be updated are the best ones to get, otherwise the formatting will go out of style and you will lose the ability to get some special features.

I always suggest a PS3 because for pretty much the same price as a good player, you get a video game system too

Does your Dad have a Netflix account? If so, you might want to look into the new Samsung Blu-Ray players. They let you stream Netflix movies from your computer to your TV. The Samsung BD-P2550 is $349 at Best Buy.

Edit: I did not see your price range. You will probably not find a new model that supports all of the latest features for under $200.

If he doesn’t plan to use the online features, most cheaper ones will do just fine. I just bought a Memorex on sale a couple of weeks ago for $145. It works great.

Cool. I didn’t know that was possible. I just ordered an HDTV set and was considering getting a Blu-Ray player. Now I think I’ll wait to see if that Samsung model gets any cheaper.

I’ve thought about getting him a PS3 (he likes games), but it’s definitely out of the price range. Maybe for his birthday. And my dad’s a technophobe, so he won’t be able to use any online features or order movies from netflix.

I don’t think he’d be interested in this, but what kind of special features are you talking about? I basically want something that plays Blu-Ray movies in all their high def glory, is an online connection necessary for this?

The problem with Blu-Ray is that the discs seem to cost $10-25 more than the same movie on DVD. So I’ve been told that an upconverting DVD player can improve the resolution of conventional DVDs to almost as good as Blu-Ray, and you can get one for under $50.

Question, does a Blu-ray machine play regular DVDs?

Generally yes.

I would suggest getting him the cheapest “name-brand” Blu-ray. They all pretty much do the same thing, and so long as you can hook up the HDMI he’ll be very happy. Yes, the discs are a bit more expensive, but the picture is awesome and you can have some fun movie nights with your dad.

LG makes a model that also streams Netflicks for $350. So you can watch for that price to drop, too.

http://us.lge.com/bluray/

I don’t even have an HDTV yet, but I too am excited about the feature and want to get one when they’re cheaper. I might even buy one before I get an HDTV, just for the Netflicks feature. Then, when I get a new TV, hey, I already have a blue ray player.

You can also buy a “netflicks player” for $99 that doesn’t do anything else but I don’t think it’s a great value. I guess it might be if you’d already spent $400 on a blue ray player.

I strongly advise you not to buy the Samsung BDP-1500. I have one for a couple of months and the thing is an absolute nightmare.
It keeps freezing during playback of some movies and has lots of handshake problems, even with my Samsung LCD TV.

If you already have a TV that supports 24 frames, make sure to buy a BluRay player that also supports it, it is definitely worth it.

Just an FYI, the “View Instantly” option from Netflix is also now available on Xbox360-Live. So if you’ve got a 360, signing up for a year’s subscription of Live (roughly $40?) will get you access to this option, as well.

After some research, I decided on the Panasonic DMP-BD35: Profile 2.0 and great reviews. I found it at CostCo (store, not online) for $199 yesterday (the Costco version is the DMP-BD35AK, which includes an HDMI cable).

If your father is interested in extras and interactive content, make sure to get a Profile 2.0 player. I’ll need to be hooked up to an ethernet connection (onto your home network), to access the on-line goodies that are available on Blu-Ray discs. On the other hand, if he just tends to watch the movie on the disc, and ignores the extra content, then a Profile 1.1 player is good enough (no internet required). The PS3 has the nice ability to be upgraded to Profile 2.0 and potentially beyond, while most standalone players do not.

Also, all blu-Ray players will play DVD’s, and in fact, will upsample/upscale them to 1080p/720p, etc - just like the ‘upconverting’ dvd players that are all the rage. Some might have fancier circuitry for the conversion (more bits, etc), but whether that really makes a difference will depend on the size of the tv, your eye, pickiness, etc.

Also, people tend to complain about the following issues with blu-Ray players: loud machines (fans usually), slow boot up, and slow disc loading. Besides that, and the Profile issues mentioned above, all blu-Ray players should perform basically the same. They have to meet the minimum blu-Ray specs - so basically, if they can play blu-Ray, then they can play blu-Ray. Like most regular dvd players - somewhat interchangable…

I know you’ve mentioned a couple of times that its out of your price range, but taking another look at the PS3 would benefit you in the long run. Blu-Ray as a standard is not as settled as DVD was when it became mainstream, and updates to the standard are pretty regular. The PS3, because of its better connectivity, is widely considered the most “future proof” Blu-Ray player you can buy, without even taking into account the game side of things. Many problems have been reported with discs that use a newer form of Blu-Ray (mostly in the form of their continually changing BD-Plus copy protection scheme) no working on older players, or companies simply not bothering to provide the necessary updates to their systems in a timely fashion (or the process to do so being extremely complicated and involving downloading to a computer and transferring by flash drive to the player)

I personally do not believe that Blu-Ray is going to ever take off to the same level as DVD, the discs are too expensive, and the quality/features jump is not big enough to justify the cost. I firmly believe the future is in the online (legal) download vs. physical discs. But of course I could very well be wrong as well…

That would’ve been my own choice. Sadly I need an analog stereo output for my old NAD integrated amp ( 5.1? 6.1? 7.1? Bah! ), which means upgrading to the more expensive BD55 if I go that route. Still mulling that one over.

But obviously my issue doesn’t apply to the OP, since he’s just hooking it to the TV. Given that I think the Panasonic is a good bet. Within the price limit and very well-reviewed.

I suggest doing some research on any unit you’re considering and look at the process for upgrading the firmware. Given the history of Blu-ray, you will be upgrading the firmware several times over the next few years. You want a method which is convenient.

Some units require a special disk sent by the manufacturer. Others have a USB port – you download firmware from the web to a thumb drive on a supported computer and then move the thumb drive to the player. Some have a ethernet connection and allow a direct download to the player. I haven’t yet seen any with WiFi. Depending on what you have available, this could be a major pain.

Upconverted DVDs are no where near as good as Blu Ray.

I’d wait and get the PS3.

The upgrade pain is the sole reason I haven’t bought a Blu-Ray player. My parents have a Sony BDP-300 player. When we were visiting over Thanksgiving, they had gotten ‘21’ on Netflix. It took us three days to be able to watch that freaking movie. The upgrade requires you to burn an update disc, put it in the player, and let it do it’s thing. Easy, right?

DAY ONE:
I went to the Sony site, downloaded the .iso onto my Dad’s PC, and bookmarked the instruction sheet. It was several pages long, and every few paragraphs were bold faced notes in red text, warning me that if I didn’t follow the process exactly, I’d brick the player. Dad went to the store to buy blank CD’s.

Turned out he’d never burned a CD on that particular machine, and didn’t have a CD burning program installed. I sent an email to the store, and got a recommendation for a freeware disc burning package the next morning.

DAY TWO:
Installed the burning software on my Dad’s PC, and saw that we had CD-RW’s. Sony claims it had to be a CD-R, not a CD-RW, or the player could be corrupted. Back to the store that afternoon. Buy more discs, burn the upgrade disc that night.

DAY THREE:
Pop the newly burned disc in the player. Sony’s instructions warned the upgrade would likely take more than half an hour, and during the process, the player would reboot several times, open and close the tray a couple of times, and sometimes I should expect it to just sit there for a few minutes. Under no circumstances was I to do anything until the front panel said “DL OK”. I was especially not to unplug the player, or turn it on or off. Failure to heed this warning would result in a non-functioning player that would need factory repair.

So I put in the disc, and let it start the process while we had dinner. Came back an hour later, and the player appeared to be turned off. So I called Sony. After the normal delays and intelligence tests, I got to an agent. After some time, he told me it was likely the upgrade was complete, and the player had turned itself off after two minutes to save power. Apparently the revised instructions will advise the user to closely watch the player during the 30 minute upgrade process. Under his guidance, I turned the player back on, and confirmed the firmware version. Popped in the new movie (Remember the movie? We’re doing this to watch a movie), and confirmed it would play. By that time, it was 9:00, so we decided to watch the movie the next night.

DAY FOUR:
To be fair, the movie looked gorgeous. But in the back of my mind, I kept thinking about how much work it had taken to get there. And I knew that in a few months, a new Blu-Ray encryption key would require another upgrade, this time performed by my father with my advice over the phone.

So let me ask you: Is this acceptable behavior from an appliance? Would you tolerate a toaster that required a software upgrade the first time you brought home melba toast?

Don’t get me wrong; I’ve got a home network with multiple TiVo’s, an Apple TV, and multiple computers and consoles. I’m happy to twiddle with all of that, and am proud to have set up my universal remote exactly the way I want it. And I’m just old enough to be amazed by the clarity of HD content. But I feel that my DVD player should be able to play a DVD, twiddle free.

I understand that the BDP-350 has built in networking capability, and is apparently perfectly capable of getting its own updates, thankyouverymuch. So maybe there’s hope. But do ask about the upgrades.

This is exactly how I feel about the issue. I am more than happy to tinker around and upgrade/hack stuff to make it do what I want it to do or to do it better, but not to get basic functionality out of a $300 purchase. Over on Gizmodo, there have been an number of editorials and articles about “beta culture” and how this sort of this is getting to be the norm and slightly out of control. The Blu-Ray spec should not be sold to the public if they have not even settled on a firm, final version that will allow it to “just work” for the average consumer.

This is an example also of how hell-bent the studios are on putting anti-piracy measures (the BD+ and encryption mentioned above) over the convenience and utility of the consumer. This is the single biggest reason almost all studios backed Blu-Ray over HD-DVD…more stringent copy protection. This attitude of being willing to screw the average consumer to hit the very small number of actual pirates is one reason I really want Blu-Ray to fail.

That was a bit of a tangent…sorry…