Which is why it is illegal.
Because it happens with alarming frequency (not necessarily the suing part but the sex with inmates). And not always with male guards.
Which is why it is illegal.
Because it happens with alarming frequency (not necessarily the suing part but the sex with inmates). And not always with male guards.
Who said there’s no abuse of power? That’s why it’s a crime in the firist place. It’s in the penal ode under “Penal Code Title 8. Offenses Against Public Administration, Chapter 39: Abuse of Office.” It’s a crime and it’s wrong, but it’s not the same thing as forcible sexual assault. The distinction is crucial to their federal case.
It’s not unrealistic in the slightest; sex between guards and inmates happens all of the time in every state in the union, some of which are not even Texas. It’s wrong because it’s an abuse of the disparate power between staff and offenders, but it’s also a security problem because it opens the guard up to extortion, e.g. “I know you’re having sex with offender Jones, so smuggle this dope in for me or I’ll get you fired, and by the way you shouldn’t have told him that you live at 12 Green street because now I know too.” Prison guards lose their jobs for inappropriate relationships with offenders all the time; I can think of at least two I know off of the top of my head who got fired, subsequently married the offender and started a campaign for his release.
If the guards had been convicted of sexual assault I wouldn’t even have considered consensual sex with inmates as a possibility, but they weren’t. For the record, I do think it’s a distinct possibilty that the guards did in fact sexually assault these women, and that the prosecutor had problems of proof and witness credibility and allowed the gueards to plead on a lesser crime to avoid the possibility of them being acquitted altogether. I don’t know that for a fact, though, and can’t assume it based on the news.
Ha ha, that’s funny because it’s so fresh and biting, and I’ve never read it before.
oh, wait, nevermind …
Back in the 70s you could offer rape camps for school kids, but the world is so litigious these days …
On another forum discussing this news story, someone brought up an interesting example of that sort of thing.
In Texas? I’m more surprised that they were punished at all. And that the inmates making the accusations didn’t all suffer “fatal accidents”.
And I went to bio camp . . . ![]()
One day at rape camp, I didn’t stick anything up my pussy.
The assumption definitely is different. The reality shouldn’t be; rape should be unacceptable, period.
What do you mean “the assumption is different”? That in other countries it’s not assumed that inmates will be raped?
I’d like to shake your hand.
Dumb and hopelessly naive question, but aside from the racketeering thing, any of these guards get prosecuted for rape? What with the power imbalance making it impossible for prisoners to consent and all that.
Yes, in Texas, for one woman and probably many more, the penalty for smoking pot was serial rape.
So, your outrage is not against the concept of a rape camp in general, your outrage is against Texas?
One would think that people would be outraged by this regardless of where it happened.
I’d like to shake your hand.
Even knowing where it’s been?
Dumb and hopelessly naive question, but aside from the racketeering thing, any of these guards get prosecuted for rape? What with the power imbalance making it impossible for prisoners to consent and all that.
That could depend on whether the “person in a position of keeping custody” circumstance of the crime under the law is construed in such a manner that it does or does not necessarily remove per se the capacity for consent; it could be that depending on the facts and construction of the law, the person in the subordinate position may be found able to willingly initiate the liaison, and the person in the oversight position would then incur in forbidden “unlawful sexual conduct” but not “aggravated sexual battery”.
No idea what’s the status of that in Maryland or in the Federal jurisdiction.
Law Dopers?
So, your outrage is not against the concept of a rape camp in general, your outrage is against Texas?
One would think that people would be outraged by this regardless of where it happened.
No, my point was only that, if the allegations are true, this poor woman got busted for pot and wound up getting repeatedly raped and molested at the rape camp. I don’t KNOW of anyone else who’s been serially raped after being busted for pot … it DO seem a bit harsh.
… it DO seem a bit harsh.
What’chu talkin’ 'bout, Willis?
So, your outrage is not against the concept of a rape camp in general, your outrage is against Texas?
One would think that people would be outraged by this regardless of where it happened.
Fuck you’re a moron. How the hell do you manage to navigate your web browser?
Fuck you’re a moron. How the hell do you manage to navigate your web browser?
I’m a moron for being outraged at the existence of this place, regardless of the location? Shows where your fucked-up priorities lie.
Now we aren’t allowed to mention Texas when shit happens in Texas??
Holy hell, I thought conservatives were against politically correct language policing!