Regarding Weirddave being suspended.

Did someone say something then?

I haven’t got any warnings, though I’ve been banned. Does that count?

This is a fact. Although I think that has more to do with the tone of your posts than political leanings. I disagree with most of what you say regarding politics, but you’ve always been completely civil to me (sometimes more than I deserve), and are able to separate those discussions from affecting other topics you post on. I have a great deal of respect for you, actually.

I’ve been officially warned a couple times (once right out of the gate) and not so officially a couple more. I was concerned that I was skating close to the edge. This thread in ATMB goes into some detail about what gets taken into consideration as far as warnings go.

I noticed you, but I forgot why.

Noticed who? Oh, yea, that guy that rayh quoted once. What’s his name again?

I know I have 2 (?) official warnings and probably a few admonishments. In another thread I made the mention that posters should have access to what the official record is on their file. I was beaten with the smote-club for asking, and still never got any actual answer, though it wouldn’t surprise me to find the one response that didn’t answer my question was probably chalked up as an admonishment.

Don’t bother asking. We’re not allowed to know. You have a better shot at having the Book of Life shown to you while still converting oxygen.

OTOH, knowing you’re not allowed to know is much for relaxing. Acceptance of fate can be a wonderful thing. :slight_smile:

Says you. OTOH, if you’re a prick about it when you ask, I can’t say I blame them for being less than forthcoming. I’m not saying you were; I have no knowledge of the thread you refer to.

You just had a good lawyer.

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I don’t THINK I have any official warnings, but I’d be curious to find out for sure.

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duffer, I told you precisely how many warnings you have. Go read the thread again.

Were those all of them? In the last 2 1/2 years?

The point I forgot to add (damnit!) is that it was mentioned that one of the warnings concerning the OP was 4 1/2 years ago. The only way to remember that is either be mindlessly obssessed over it, or search all 4 1/2 years’ worth of posts. In addition, even if the warning from that long ago were found, how would someone know it still was in effect and not expired?

Are all warnings active? If not, which are still being waved like flags whenever one Mod wants to make a case for a banning? Which make the other Mods just do a rolleye and say “That’s ludicrous to include in this decision”?

Again, it’s all arbitrary, and I can handle it. It’s just a bit nerve-racking when there are posters I know (through direct statements in a thread) that let me know what a peice of shit they think I am, then become Mods with the power to warn and petition. And never seem to let the past animosity go.

No, my next argument will be a reference to the already explicit statement I made earlier that the suspension was based on the fact that he incurred three separate warnings for personal attacks in the last three months with two in just two days. I will then note that the Warnings against which you are complaining were not among those three and, further, that they all preceded the period in which we Mods have agreed to be more explicit regarding what is logged as a warning and what is not (an action that has actually reduced the number of official Warnings, since now we generally distinguish between official Warnings and corrective admonitions, recording only the former).

Are the Warnings arbitrary? Perhaps. I certainly agree that they are human judgments. Would you like to compose a list of explicit rules to cover every eventuality, then code the bot to issue the warnings in some truly objective fashion? Are you asking that we handle all board violations with a policy of Zero Tolerance, with carefully compiled lists of “bad words” and “inappropriate comments”?

Given that a general consensus of the staff is required to invoke a banning, that the recently implemented suspension policy gives each poster a heads up that they are on thin ice prior to actual banning, and that we have actually rescinded both Warnings and Suspensions when we have been presented with persuasive arguments that we have erred, it would seem that the system is limping along pretty well, despite its “arbitrary” (read “human”) character.

You were told twice, in that thread, by two separate Mods, that that was the entire list. Given that you were not warned (or even admonished) for making an issue of it in that thread and that you do not seem to have incurred any retaliatory Warnings, (or even admonishments), for voicing your opinion in the days since that exchange, I would have hoped that you had already figured out on your own that we were not lying to you and that you were not walking around beneath the sword of Damocles or the cloud of Joe Btfsplk.

If you have an example of a Moderator whom you believe is carrying a grudge actually issuing a warning that was not earned, trot it out. Please note, however, that despite your expressed fears (or the act of expressing them), every time you have clicked on the “Submit” button, recently, your post has been sent to the SDMB and you have not been directed to a screen indicating that you were unable to post. If either the hostility or the arbitrariness against which you continue to rant were as horrible as you seem to indicate, you would not be posting to this thread.

Maybe I should have waited for this post before ever posing the question. It may clarify what I was asking in the first place.

Is there a time where previous warnings are dismissed? Where they aren’t taken into account? It’s an honest question and nobody seems to have an answer.

The second question is, at what point is a warning, now, not taken into account? If at all? IOW, if Dave had gone 6 months, a year, 2 years, would the first of those 3 warnings not been considered?

I may be acting like a prick here, but if we have to follow rules, I think it’s only fair to know what the rules are. Not rules that earn bannings if broken, but also rules that are used to determine a ban.

Granted, there are always exceptions and special circumstances. But exceptions are based on a set of rules in place. I was just hoping to get a baseline on the rules. Seems unlikely that’s possible as it’s human interaction, and I’m likely chasing the wrong truck on this. I’ll let it go now, I just wanted to be clear in what I was trying to get an answer to.

Yes.

The rest of your questions were well addressed in that thread as well, most especially by tomndebb. duffer, I reiterate, if you feel that a moderator is abusing their power to pick on you, contact an administrator. Or Pit the mod. Or start being Caesar’s wife. Whatever.

We’ve answered your questions, and we’ve attempted to answer your concerns, and I don’t know what more any of us can say.

From now on, I will be unable to think of duffer except as Joe Btfsplk.

No need to say more. Questions have been answered and paranoia lain to rest.

HAH! Visual proof I’ve shot myself in the foot by arguing with Mods. How appropriate.

Do your time, then come back tanned, rested, and ready.

duffer, this is a warning.

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Bwah ha ha!!!