I said love, not sex. You DO know theres a difference?
Mangetout:
which version?
I recommend The Douay-Rheims version, simply because it was translated directly from the Latin Vulgate, which was written in 382 (long before Luther and his protestant descendents could take stuff out).
In view of the fact that this has degenerated to a “We’re right” “No, we’re right” second-grade exercise, I’d like to go on record as affirming Arcite’s post as valid for me.
Just out of curiosity, Monty, I was aware of “marriages sealed for eternity” in the CoJCoLDS, but not aware of what the Scriptural base for it is. (Assuming “Scriptural” is the appropriate term – do you include BoM, D&C, PoGP in “Scriptures” as common usage?)
As for me, Orbytal, I’d have to concede that any church Jesus founded was based on his commissioning of the Twelve as his Apostles, with collegial oversight by them guided by the Holy Spirit as described in Acts, with Peter exercising leadership among them in the early days. Such a church is preserved inthe Orthodox and Anglican Communions, but is not well modeled by a monarchical Papacy and Curia giving orders to the bishops. Perhaps you would care to make your case on this subject, preferably in a new thread to avoid a hijack of this one?
Poly: Yes, I include the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine & Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price as scriptures. As far as marriage forever, though, one doesn’t have to go beyond the Old Testament to find a reference for it in Hosea 2:19. Obviously not everyone agrees that’s what it refers to; however, those who disagree with it are far more polite than that stunningly ignorant comment from Orbytal above.
I guess what we need is a volunteer to die and report back.
Any takers?
so i’m going to regret asking this, but what got taken out?
Monty, Hosea 2:19 seems like a very thin thread to hang such an important doctrine on. In context, “I will betroth you to me forever” (NIV) is God speaking to Israel, not one individual person speaking to another, and I don’t see any reason to apply it to individual marriages, especially in the light of what Jesus says in the passage referenced above.
And you’re right about Orbytal. Whether he’s right or wrong (I’m not even touching that question here), that was stunningly tactless.
—But Jesus answered them, "You are wrong, because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God.—
How can a question be wrong?
And I wonder what scriptures Jesus thinks he’s quoting? Which scriptures refer to “the ressurection” on this matter, exactly?
I’d say that ‘You are wrong’ in this context is quite nicely equivalent to ‘none of the above’
(in other words it was a rejection of a false dilemma)
Apos, I don’t know what scriptures He’s referring to (I’ve puzzled over that one myself), but I think I can explain why He said the Sadducees were wrong. The key is in verse 23: “… who say that there is no resurrection”. The question they ask is not a sincere request for information; they’re trying to force Jesus into admitting that the doctrine of resurrection leads to a logical contradiction (since you can’t be married to more than one person at a time.)
How many wives will I be allowed to take to make it a significant experiment?
And when am I expected to provide the report?
Well, that’s not all we hang it on, of course. I was just saying that there are words along those lines in the OT.
Or it could be Hosea speaking to his wife. As I said above, not everyone agrees to that rendering.
Well, one reason might be to make our concept “work.” 
“Tactless” isn’t the word I was considering.
It is a question I wonder about. I have buried one man I loved, and will bury another before next summer. Which of them will be there for me when it is my turn? And what sorts of relationships will we have there? Looking forward to seeing loved ones again after death is one of the high hopes of the Christian faith. I hope God has it figured out how it’s all going to work out.
Polly
—The question they ask is not a sincere request for information; they’re trying to force Jesus into admitting that the doctrine of resurrection leads to a logical contradiction (since you can’t be married to more than one person at a time.)—
Well, I’m not about to trust the Gospels on who was or was not being sincere, but it seems like a legitimate problem to ask when faced with a doctrine that seems to defied the religious and scriptural tradition.
But again, it seems as if Jesus is calling them on lack of knowledge of Scripture. What Scriptural insight on ressurection are they missing?
I’m curious Monty, how do the LDS deal with the issue of Matt 22 (which, btw, also sums up my feelings on the matter; sex and marriage as we know them are non-issues in heaven)?
And who, according to LDS doctrine, awaits a multiple widow in the afterlife?
For Polycarp: I won’t hijack this thread to rebuttle that argument.
For Tars Tarkas: Which ones taken out?
Baruch, Sirach, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Tobit, Judith, and the Wisdom of Solomon, plus portions of Esther and Daniel
For Monty & c_carol: Tactless? maybe… but I did get my point across. I am on the same quest as everyone on the SDMB — the quest for the truth. I am just trying to keep people from being misled.
For Polly: “looking forward to seeing loved ones again after death”?
forgive me if this sounds like an attack, its not (i may just not understand)…
Seeing others in heaven would be much lower on my hopes list than thanking God for his GRACE of Salvation… anticipating others waiting on your arrival and having a reunion sounds pretty selfish…
Orbytal:
Why? Are you expecting to be so short on time that you can’t squeeze a reunion in?
Orbytal said
I think that you will be pleased to know that the Apocrypha is included in many Protestant Bibles. It was also standard in the King James Version until early in the 19th Century.