Remember that scene in minority report where...

[outlierrn]

@Caveat_lector_1

I only vaguely remember the scene so I don’t recall how close it was, but I do remember that the only murder left being committed were basically crimes of passion. This brings up the issue about whether it’d be better to arrest or just stop them. It could be that once out of the moment they’d be horrified by about what they almost did and never do any such thing again, thus avoiding having to incarcerate them. Theoretically they could still want to plot the death of the other person, but given that such a thing could be predicted and prevented makes that of little worry in the movie’s world.

I think this is an excellent point. As noted, the perp did not decide to act. There was no weighing of alternatives resulting in a choice. I also agree that suspended animation is a resource waste, there’s no rehabilitation, no deterrence. Criminals are sequestered, so societies protected, but they aren’t much risk for repeat anyway.

[Mahaloth]

@GuanoLad

No, the actor’s name is Arye Gross, who I always remember as Ellen DeGeneres’s friend in her sitcom. He wasn’t in Serenity.

Oh.

You’re right.

:smack:

[orcenio]

@Caveat_lector_1

I think most crimes of passion are triggered by specific and unusual circumstances so random snapping would be unlikely. You don’t walk in on your wife in bed with another man every day and people do stupid things when blinded by any emotion ,but especially anger. However, if mental stability is an issue then you could have the person evaluated and if he/she is unstable you can just have them treated/committed.

Yeah but I wasn’t thinking that he would walk in on his wife again but something new would happen. like

Tom Cruise: There, I’ve stopped you. So… don’t try it again. runs off to stop more pre-crime
Adam (from ellen): Thanks Cruise, I don’t know what came over me. I’m not a murderer. now to wife And you! Why do this? Why hurt me?!
Wifey: Well, your dick is too small and I think you smell.
Adam (from ellen): Oh no!? Not my penis size!!! Picks up stone from the rubble and swings it AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

And this time Tom has neither the resources nor the time to stop the crime. It’s best to just arrest him.

[Zebra]

Very few people know that Hollywood gets 67.2% of their electrical power by making Phillip K. Dick spin in his grave.

[Hypno-Toad]

@Lemur866

There’s no NEED for draconian punishments for attempted murder. Only spur of the moment murders can occur, since any premeditated murderer will be apprehended long before the murder can occur, and since the premeditated murderer knows this they abandon the attempted murder before it happens.

In the example of the movie, this is correct. The guy needs maybe some jail time and therapy. Attempting murder is not the same as committing murder. But there are probably a lot of folks in suspension who were real killers. The earliest precrime cases no doubt included many bona-fide murderers and intentional killers. Those folks had been put into suspension or cleared out before the start of the movie.

I wonder what happens if someone orders a hit? Do they get spotted or does the hit man alone get all the attention? And precrime was only in the DC area. What happens if you push a button in the DC area that kills a man in Hong Kong? Do you get spotted?

[KneadToKnow]

@Zebra

Very few people know that Hollywood gets 67.2% of their electrical power by making Phillip K. Dick spin in his grave.

I’ll be stealing (and occasionally modifying) this.

[Caveat_lector_1]

@orcenio

Yeah but I wasn’t thinking that he would walk in on his wife again but something new would happen. like

Tom Cruise: There, I’ve stopped you. So… don’t try it again. runs off to stop more pre-crime
Adam (from ellen): Thanks Cruise, I don’t know what came over me. I’m not a murderer. now to wife And you! Why do this? Why hurt me?!
Wifey: Well, your dick is too small and I think you smell.
Adam (from ellen): Oh no!? Not my penis size!!! Picks up stone from the rubble and swings it AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!

And this time Tom has neither the resources nor the time to stop the crime. It’s best to just arrest him.

Well no you shouldn’t leave him there. That’d be kind of silly. I assume you could take him some where else. For processing or some such, but the “stick em in the halo thing forever” is a bit much for a crime of passion that was prevented.

[Zebra]

@KneadToKnow

I’ll be stealing (and occasionally modifying) this.

But Tom Cruise will burst through your window just before you hit “submit reply”.
Seriously the HUGE difference between the written story and the movie is that the Tom Cruise character COMMITS THE MURDER. The pre-crime is generally considered good thing. (I don’t think there is suspended animation or any eyeball removal in the book) The thing is one of the judges and a leader of political opposition to the current people in power riggs it to implicate Tom will murder HIM. At a political rally. Tom goes there and it is a big political show to discredit PRE-Crime. So Tom walks up to the podium and shoots him. He does this to SAVE Pre-Crime and because he believe that society is more important than the individual. Society is better off with Pre-Crime and he gets shipped off to a different planet. (a Space Australia) The movie takes the position that the individual is more important than society and the poor poor pre-cogs must be set free. (to play really boring games of chess, I mean, they’re pre-cogs for Christ’s sake!)