I agree with everything in the post, except that decided not to see Supersize Me, and have subsequently failed to pontificate upon it. I read the first three pages or so of the original thread, and then stopped because you (CandidGamera) and lissener’s hijack was so fucking annoying that I got sick of trying to find the posts that actually answered the OP amidst your little shit-flinging fest. For anyone who doesn’t feel like parsing it themselves, let me summarize:
CandidGamera: I never saw Supersize Me, but it was absolute shite and I hate it. lissener: You can’t really know that unless you’ve seen it, though. CG: Yes, I can. l: No, you can’t. CG: Yes, I can. l: No, you can’t. CG: YES, I CAN! l: NO, YOU CAN’T! CG: YES, I CAN! l: NO, YOU CAN’T! CG: YES, I CAN! l: NO, YOU CAN’T!
I’m glad this finally landed in the Pit so I can tell the both of you to SHUT THE FUCK UP OR START YOUR OWN GODDAMN THREAD, YOU LITTLE PRICKS.
Eh, you’re entitled to your opinion. I think my courtroom analogy back in the main thread clearly illustrates that it’s a valid, rational method.
“Your observation is at odds with the overwhelming numbers of other people’s observation. Perhaps you may wish to re-calibrate.” I don’t need to be an expert physicist to tell someone that if their experiment got a different result than fifty thousand other copies of the same experiment, they screwed up. And when Dio starts preaching, I may even phrase my criticism snarkily.
You’re conflating the subjective and objective portions of the process. I formed my opinion of the movie (that it’s trash) based on the objective observations of other people (that it’s premise was _______).
See how simple that is?
And : The Weird One : You expected a Cafe Society thread about movies people HATE to go by without someone getting into a back and forth about one of the choices? Are you that impossibly naive?
Profoundly simple, indeed. And like many profoundly simple things, it is also fucking stupid. I am not conflating anything; I am rejecting your quite ridiculous assertion that because the morons you hang out with tell you the premise of a film is X, then it is objectively so. It is not.
I am, however, happy to note that you now openly claim to know better than people who have seen the movie, as long as you’ve got enough people to agree with you. A marvellous approach to film criticism, to be sure.
Here, here. If I ran Cafe Society, it’d be a banning offence.
Candid, people don’t give a shit about your opinion unless it’s informed. If you haven’t seen the movie, you don’t have an informed opinion, and you should shut the fuck up and let people who actually know what they’re talking about discuss the movie, instead of clogging the thread up with your blinkered ignorance.
You know, I’d stop responding to this if you didn’t keep getitng the simple facts wrong. I am not basing anything on the observations of “people I hang out with” - the one cite about my co-workers was to counter-balance lissener’s sweeping generalization, and that’s all. The observations I used are reviews on IMDb, plot synopses, trailers, and the like, amalgamated into a whole.
They sure seem to respond to it in droves, for not caring about it. If you discount my opinion because it is based on secondhand observation, then don’t respond to it. I won’t complain.
Blimey. You really seem to have put a lot of effort into forming your “opinion” of this movie. One wonders whether it mightn’t have been less trouble to just watch it, and see for yourself. It’s also quite impressive that you’ve sought out an even more reliable source of morons than your colleagues (in the form of the denizens of the IMDb) for your reviews. Might I suggest that you head rottentomatoes-wards to find a source of reviews from professionals whose main qualification doesn’t consist of a diploma awarded for contributions to the field of headbutting immovable objects?
Yes, and what responses did you get? “You haven’t seen the movie, so your opinion is worthless.” Yeah, you had some real valuable input to that thread, I tell you what.
I’m quite familiar with rottentomatoes.com - can’t recall if I consulted it in this particular instance, though. As for the level of effort - I browse entertainment news sites to fill my time. I check out lots of new releases. I’m a media junkie. It’s what I do.
I can, quite often, recite the principal cast, date of release, and plot synopsis of movies I have never seen. Just has to be something that caught my eye on IMDB for whatever reason.
And again, you’re missing the point. That’s not asserting that I know better, it’s asserting that the 50,000 other people, as a whole, almost assuredly know better.
Your time must be incredibly valuable. Defending your non-opinions and chasing anything with tits on the sdmb must come at tremendous personal cost to you.
CandidGamera didn’t have time to see Supersize Me. He was too busy “teaching lessons” to bullies on the highway in addition to his pressing duties defending his non-opinions and chasing anything on the board with tits.
To address this seriously, though - I reiterate : I can’t watch movies at work. I can browse the net and post to the SDMB. You’ll notice that I check the SDMB once each evening after getting home, and that’s it.
As for my traffic-avenger tendencies, that’s just my overdeveloped sense of justice, and that doesn’t take long at all.
Many things in the world are like a parfait (paraphrasing Donkey): multilayered. You can’t taste all the flavors in the first spoonful. You’re claiming the parfait is vanilla but you never took the time to taste the chocolate or strawberry… and you keep yelling, “vanilla!” and expecting us (those who savored all the flavors) to agree that the parfait is bland.
Is this the appropriate place to use-------> :wally
To make the analogy work, it would be as if I tasted some of each layer that the confectioner(?) wanted to present to me (by viewing trailers) and then read numerous descriptions of other folks’ experience with the dessert.
And I’m not expecting anyone to agree.
So except for being totally wrong, your analogy is very apt.
