I agree…I am younger than Obama, but I can still think he’s too young to be President (I’m not saying I do think that, only that one’s own age isn’t really relevant to whether or not you can legitimately hold that opinion). It’s the perfect issue to attempt to dismiss him over, especially with the Republican candidate’s relatively advanced age working against him. I have to assume that was what was going on here, unless I have some evidence that suggests otherwise.
He didn’t say anything about Obama being young. That was not the context for his remarks.
Now, now - we have to look at it in the context of the American racial experience. Yes, the guy may have made a slightly racist remark. But at the same time, my black grandmother always acted weird around white folks. So it’s really comes out to be the same thing, and what we need to do is heal this country’s racial scars by electing me as President.
Oh, I know it’s meant as demeaning to call an adult a boy. I just never knew it was racist when used on African Americans.
I only recently found out about the whole swimming thing. I guess I don’t hang out with enough racists.
Did he say something about Obama being Black?
Naw, you probably have, it’s just that when they give those sermons you’re not paying attention.
It’s a good question and an important thing to think about. Blue-collar workers and rural farmers and a lot of other people who you would think would want to vote Democratic because 8 years of a Republican economy has fucked over their jobs, outsourced their factories, and a lot of other problems, I think see the “liberals” as being elitist precisely when they make an issue of things like gun control. Especially if the person in question is someone who has spent a long time in Washington, D.C., it’s easy for rural people to think, “you hypocritical bastards want to make it illegal for me to own a semi-automatic rifle, while you have private security details and bodyguards.” In my opinion, any Democrat who would have the balls to come out and say, “I will not infringe upon your second-amendment rights, folks, and I will not make you a criminal overnight for having a firearm that chambers a new round automatically” would win a lot of rural votes and have fewer people calling him or her “elitist.”
It comes from their fucking attitude. WE know what’s best for you, WE know the best use for your money, WE are going to pass laws ensuring that you are forced to comply with whatever WE deem important, and if you don’t agree than you’re evil/meanspirited/stupid. It pervades everything liberals do, and it’s goddamn arrogant and insulting. Barak Obama’s “bitter” comments are just another example of this attitude. You seem to think that if you scream “WHAT HE SAID WAS TRUE!” over and over than it will be so, but it’s not. People can have faith in a higher power for a variety of reasons, people can own guns because it’s their right to do so. You are wrong, you have no right to impose your biases on other people, and your continued attempts to do so strike most normal people as elitist. As long as liberals believe that government is the hammer to drive every nail in exactly where they say it should go they are going to be perceived as elitist. Furthermore, this perception is 100% accurate.
Well, that’s the question, isn’t it? He clearly meant his words to be demeaning, but the defense that he was only referring to Obama’s age doesn’t wash in light of the fact that Davis is scarely any older than Obama is, and in light of the fact that Davis did not make any reference to Obama’s age at all. So what other connotation is there?
For the record, it’s still insulting for a man to call a collegue his same age “boy,” whether h ntends any racial subtext or not.
Wow, that’s an awfully … well, awful cite. Limbaugh-like in its vagueness and sneering generalizations.
This is mythical, non-existent attitude which is entirely the invention of right wing radio talk show hosts. Liberals do not thinkor act in any such way. The sick irony is that everything you’ve said above fits the Bush administration to a tee.
His name is spelled “Barack,” with a c.
Obama was talking about why people gravitate to those things as voting issues, not why they value them in the first place. Christ. It’s rather early in the day to already be frothing at the mouth, isn’t it?
I gave you a possible connotation…that he’s trying to dismiss him based on his age, because the other candidates are more mature in years than he is. Davis was probably not impliclitly comparing Obama to himself, given that he isn’t running. You claim that he wasn’t talking about his age, but he wasn’t talking about his race, either, so that’s no evidence either way. Several people have pointed out to you that it’s quite possible for someone Obama’s age or younger to think he’s too young and inexperience to be President, and you haven’t addressed that at all, except by simply repeating that Davis is the same age. It would be nice if you addressed the argument, rather than just repeating that same fact as though it had relevance.
Well, of course it is. No one said he wasn’t trying to be insulting.
And conservatives are evil, Bush lied, and Clinton got a blow job. Glad we got that all out of the way.
Well, perhaps not 100%, but it is coming from someone who had no qualms about ruining a person for having the temerity of holding a job she wanted to hand over to her cronies.
It’s like when she dissed SAHMs with her patronizing little “I could have stayed at home and baked cookies” instead of working at a law firm, profiting from cattle deals and the fact that her husband was governor. Or airily dismissing the small businessmen who worried about her UHC plan bankrupting them with “I can’t be expected to save every under-capitalized small business owner in America”.
She just knows better than the peasants. We ought to be down on our knees in gratitude that she deigns to bestow on us the benefits of her wisdom.
Regards,
Shodan
I addressed it by pointing out that Davis made no reference to Obama’s age. In addition, it’s just not a believable objection. Barack Obama is 47 years old. He’s not a teenager. He’s older than Clinton was when he as first elected and only a few years younger than W was. He is not extraordinarily young to run for this office.
The suggestion that Davis was only talking about age doesn’t make any sense in the contect of his words, his own age or Obama’s age relative to the job.
And I pointed out that Davis made no reference to Obama’s race. You said discussion of age wasn’t the context. Clearly, discussion of race wasn’t the context, either, so you just decided what you think he meant, regardless of context. Which is fine if that’s what you want to think, but I wouldn’t try to claim context (or lack of) to back up your argument.
No, but why not make it seem so, if you’re trying to make a case that your own candidate isn’t hopelessly over the hill and feeble? The fact that 47 may be plenty old enough to be President is irrelevant if he’s trying to paint a picture of the two candidates as “mature, experienced, and wise” vs. “immature, inexperienced, and foolish.” Now, I don’t know for sure if that he was doing (due to that lack of context you referred to), but it makes more sense to me, considering that this is one of the tactics the Republicans have been trying to use.
It does to me.
I don’t want anybody to get the idea that this is a good ol’ boy serving a good ol’ boy district.
Davis is not a native Kentuckian–he was born in Montreal. I’m not sure how long he has lived in the area, but my impression was that it hadn’t been that long before he was elected.
His district is Northern Kentucky, aka Baja Ohio. There are a few rural counties out on the edges but the vast majority of his voters are in the Cincinnati 'burbs.
Of course, racism is a big problem out here in the Kentucky sticks, and it wouldn’t have surprised me in the least to hear the same words coming from our own good ol’ boy Hal Rogers. But for once, you can’t really blame this one on the backwoods. 
There were two possible connotations, youth or race. Obama is not young.
Comparatively, he is. But whatever, I see your mind is made up.
I’m sure that there are more than two. Consider the aformentioned good ol’ boy, as well as “you go, boy.” I’m sure I could think of more.
Being that any hint of racism in this election would be sure death to the racist, and that the entire campaign has been about experience up until now, I think that that gives us plenty of context.