Hey, who told those suckers and losers they get to vote, anyway? /s
Let me remind you of your post
The fast is, it is not, not even close - you even acknowledge this by using our esteemed J Lott’s own words where he says that there are restrictions on mail-in voting - you cannot have restrictions on a process that has been banned.
But in any case - you are continuing to quote from a poisoned source, one whose views are hugely Trumpist, right wing, controversial and studded with concerns over poor practices in gathering data and interpreting data.
I would be interested in why he quotes percentages of countries that he claims have banned postal voting instead of naming them outright - after all it should not be too hard to do this for Europe since there are few enough nations to do this - could it be that he is again being selective in his use of data to create an impression of a high percentage of nations - I do know the answer - he is not doing this because to do so would raise the obvious point, that the number of people in Europe that can apply for postal votes far outwieghs the number that cannot.
So, in the interests of clarity
Also it is worth noting that the logistics of voting in Europe are very different to the US - the EU is small and generally crowded compared to US, voting itself is very easy because there are adequate number of voting stations in all areas unlike the US where we see voter intimidation through gun carry laws and deliberately poor siting of voting stations.
The past 4 years in particular have seen a huge attempt to disenfranchise voters in largely Democrat areas through the many restrictions that range from not enough voting stations
Postal votes have caught out the current administration becuase their attempts to hobble the US postal service to deal with voting papers have failed completely. The idiot leader in chief made the assumption the vote supression would lead to his return to the White House but unfortunately for him it has not worked.
In any case, you allege that somehow postal voting should be banned and yet cite absolutely no evidence whatsoever where that has ocurred anywhare at all in the USA - and no matter what the issues are in other nations, not a single instance of voting fraud has emerged out of around 140 million + votes.
In short, your entire message is bull and the entire message of your source is bull produced by someone who is a shill for an anti-democracy demogogue
22 years ago, not really convincing, one incident in 22 years in a country of 330 million people and that’s all you can find, and absolutely nothing whatsoever in this current election, nothing at all.
Why are you hitting yourself in the forehead with hard facts? It must be painful because it sure is painful to see you struggling to come up with any credible evidence of voting fraud in the US.
If you have genuine evidence of voting fraud in the US, then this is not the place to put it is it?
Think about that, yes, just think a little moment - at present the whole of the US republican party, along with around 65 million supporters are mindlessly swinging around making false assertions and have yet to find a single incidence and have presented this lack of any evidence whatsoever to their courts appointed by various legislative bodies who are frequently Republican supporters, and yet not on ething have they found.
Are you telling me and the rest of us here that the Democrats are so very clever that they can fool hundred of millions of Americans in a vote where there are hundred of millions of pieces of paper to inspect - because if the Democrats are really that clever then maybe they are clever enough to run a country where the current incumbent has been too dumb to prevent the deaths of 240 THOUSAND of its own citizens - the number continues to climb.
You have absolutely nothing whatsoever, nothing except lies. You are not a US patriot, because such views are highly dmaging to the democratic processes of the USA, your vote denial is undermining the very nation you are claiming to support - you prefer to try destroy the credibility of the US electoral system.
Since you take this view, and we know it is damaging to the USA one has to wonder about your agenda - so please explain - why do you hate American so much?
I care about facts. There’s more than just that one example. Here’s another:
“Harris political operative Leslie McCrae Dowless may have tampered with mail-in absentee ballots.”
I can simplify the OP:
Republican State Senator wants to end mail-in voting= Republicans want to end voting.
Not quite correct. There are still a few sites that provide in-person voting for the few people that need it. In King County, there’s one at the King County Elections HQ, and there are a few others in Bellevue, Seattle, Fed Way, etc.
Republicans: OH, MY GOD! THERE’S VOTER FRAUD EVERYWHERE!
Republican candidate’s campaign tampers with ballots. Oops.
Voter fraud? Voter fraud!
Lt. Governor of Pennsylvania wants his $1m from Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick:
And the first cite was an Independent. Looks like the Democrats are the most trustworthy.
No you don’t, the clue is this
I direct your myopicly Republican viewpoint to the term “MAY HAVE” and ask you what that term means, it does not mean “Definitely did” and it does not mean " Here is the proof I told you so" it does not mean " Here is the smoking gun" so what doesw it mean?
It means nothing whatsoever, absolutely nothing - try getting that to stand up in a court of law - oh wait sorry I forgot, Republican lawyers already have tried haven’t they, and guess what, when the presiding Judge sought EVIDENCE the moving lawyer backed completely out of it, denied there was any evidence of fraud and was instead concerned.
You are floundering around like a dying whale on a beach, flapping uselessly toward Jan 20th when the humane killer will come around and put you out of your desperate misery.
Yeah, but it has nothing to do with this country, so your argument is specious. We have motor-voter in Oregon, which works with so few problems as to be insignificant. Any avenue for fraud is negated by the regulations in place to prevent just such a thing. There have been almost zero attempts at fraud in 22 years. There were 54 possible attempts in 2016, from which 10 people pled guilty. That’s 10 people out of over 4 million residents, with is something on the order of 2 (-6)%
The elections board ordered a new election and a new election was held. That seems significant.
So put up your evidence or shut up - very simple
Well, in Colorado we’ve only had 6 years of all mail in voting and there have been 6 convictions for voter fraud. There were a couple of more for issues around petitions. The Heritage Foundation has a nice data base for these things.
Just because I’m lazy, let’s assume all of those fraud cases occurred in 2020. 3.295 mm people (79.5% of registered voters!) voted this year so the Colorado rate would be 0.00018%. If we apply this number nationally and assume 100% vote by mail (again I’m lazy) so 159.8mm votes we would have about 290 people convicted of fraud this year. That is totally a reason to overturn the election imagine if they were all in Pennsylvania?
Of course, the real problem with mail in voting is that Colorado is getting 75+% turn out we can’t have those kinds of people voting nationally.
The thing with Dowless that agzem posted was a real case of voter fraud with absentee ballots. It didn’t happen in this election, but rather 2018. Basically, it was a case of ballot harvesting, which is probably the biggest hazard of all-mail voting. The main way to prevent it is to educate the voters to not trust random strangers with their ballot.
There are always voting irregularities, in every election. Some “junior” accidentally uses his deceased father’s ballot, some person mails in their ballot- then passes away. Some people accidentally try to vote twice.
There are irregularities in the elections the GOP won also, and also in the ones they lost so badly they arent bothering.
None of these change the results, and there is no evidence of systemic or massive fraud.
The constant list of bogus minor voter irregularities, most of which are fake and the rest of whom are minor and have no effect on the election at all, is just a way for trumpers to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the Biden presidency .
To be fair, no, the Dems used to have a lot of election fraud. But now they have a significant majority all they want to do is have more people vote, and the Repubs- all they want to do is supress the vote.
Voting by mail is the only way to go, IMHO. My Canadian province had a provincial election recently and a civic election this week, voted by mail for both.
This reminds me, I haven’t heard what happened with the fake “official” ballot drop-offs in California. Does anyone know what happened to ballots dropped in those?