REPUBLICANS for the rich / DEMOCRATS for everyone else

Every time a leveling of the tax burden fro those that can afford it the most, the Republicans scream foul!

It is well known that Republicans support the rich and want the tax burden to lie solely on everyone else.

The “trickle down theory” is a hoax and a fraud.

Unfortunately, the Republican party has a huge group of “Lemming” like supporters
of even the middle and low income classes.

One of the best examples of this was a recent conversation with a business women who has been in business with 8-10 employees for about 10 years. She made a statement “Obama is going to destroy the country with his new socialized Health Care!”. I said " I have owned a business for 17 years and have had the same insurance company for over 17 years. They use to be great, now they are terrible. If you have a good insurance plan I will switch over to it today!". She said “well I can’t afford insurance”.

Wow!

That is factually incorrect. If it’s “well known”, then the people who “know” it are ignorant.

Republicans used to be the party of lower-taxes, although for over 40% of the population of the country, they have recently been arguing for higher taxes. I don’t know if it’s the official party platform, but I have been hearing a lot of chatter from the pundits on Fox News and other conservative circles that ALL americans need to be paying their fair share, and seem to be upset that nearly half of our citizens had no federal tax liability because of the current tax system.

Democrats should point out that republicans are trying to make the case for raising taxes on the poorest americans every time that they try to do this. A lot of people don’t really realize that they are poor and would be affected by this though, so who knows how effective it would be.

Cool story, bro.

The sad part is, as hysterical as this sounds, look at their past policy decisions. Anti-regulation to an almost ridiculous degree, in favor of tax cuts that disproportionately favor the richest in America, opposed to extending tax cuts that disproportionately favor the lower brackets, anti-union, unwilling to budge on raising taxes on the super-rich even a little in order to compromise and shave $4T off our national deficit (and instead going with the plan that takes care of under half of that amount) in the next 10 years, anti-social security, anti-medicare, and anti-welfare, and last but not least insisting that “the poor don’t pay their fair share” because they don’t pay taxes on the tiny amount of income they get. Anti-poor, pro-rich.

The shoe fits.

Well, whaddaya expect from those wretched scum at Fox?

Republicans for the rich. Democrats also for the rich. (But they kiss you first and would offer lube except for the GOP filibuster.)

lol, too much truth in this statement!

I agree that if you are elected to Congress, chances are you befriend the rich. But at least you make some effort toward trying to get rid of the Bush tax cuts for the big corporations. Those tax cuts were made based on Clinton’s surplus!! Think maybe it’s time to reinstate the old taxes they had?

Just keep in mind that if you paid taxes last year, you, as an individual person, paid more taxes that the General Electric Corporation.

Cut out these “fake” Headquarters for coporations. You know – the ones that are corporations headquartered inside mailboxes in Switzerland or with a one person front office that the boss never visits. It shouldn’t be hard to write laws that make this illegal.

In the new building that is going up at the World Trade Center, the architect wanted special glass on the outside. The project was sent to China because it would be less expensive. Oh, come on. The Chinese were not able to accomplish the task, by the way. I don’t know if we would have be successful, but I was kind of glad. I’m not anti-Chinese. For this project in particular, I’m very pro-American. We used to have a glass plant here.

I’ll never be rich enough to be a Republican. Unaccounted for money going to “security” and contracting over the last ten years. Are we secure enough yet? Can some of those security buildings be used to house people this winter?

You made a lot a good points. Let me ad something often ignored by the press.

Bush could have made a great economy, but instead he used the Clinton economy and added borrowed money to “PAY BACK THE SAUDIS” and his oil buddies by giving them the green light to raise oil prices.

Unfortunately, this hurt the economy greatly, but while money was being borrowed it went largely unnoticed. But, now all the work presidents like Reagan and others who kept the oil prices as low as possible to “KEEP THE RUSSIANS CASH POOR” for U.S. security was… lost forever.

Thanks George Bush!

You made good points. The average “working American” is now doing 1 1/2 times the work he/she did just 5 years ago. It is getting so bad that many employers, knowing that many non-union employees are a dime a dozen, demand employees to work and donate hours or risk getting fired.

Many Republicans hate unions and even the minimum wage they think is too high.
Are they kidding? Lowering wages on the same people that are marginally better to just go on welfare? This country has too many people on welfare and disability (who do not qualify… nothing wrong with those that do qualify) and now they want to make it even more difficult for people who “want to work, but have limited skill sets…” to make even the most moderate of a living!

The unions in 1930s Germany wanted a special holiday for their workers. which apparently was deserved because Hitler when he came to power gave the workers the holiday and then the next day… He abolished all unions in Germany.

It’s certainly a workable enough rule of thumb. If it did not hold up far more often than not, I would be much more likely to vote for a Republican candidate.

The problem for middle class America is that the Democrats are solidly the lesser of two evils, rather than being staunch, reliable progressives.

Do you disagree with that? If so, which group of people should be paying an unfair share? I would have thought that everyone would want a system in which everyone paid their fair share and the only debate is about what constitutes “fair”.

Its now time for the rich to pay their fair share… but since they run the government, radio stations and TV… it is unlikely to see.

This is much more of a Pitting than a debate, so I’ve moved it to The BBQ Pit from Great Debates.

[shrug] It’s true in the sense hyperbole is true.

Hitler was also a vegetarian.

Do you care to address the point made by John Mace in Post #2?

Because it really appears you don’t know what you’re talking about. Oh, you hate George Bush? Republicans are evil?

Yaaaawwwwnnn! Do a search for these issues and proceed to orgasmic bliss.

I think that the way that the pundits I was referring to was using the word fair was to imply that the poorest Americans should be paying federal income tax, when they currently are not. I disagree with lowering the poverty level, if anything, the poverty level is too low. The 40% of Americans who didn’t pay any federal income tax did so because they were reasonably close to poverty and had enough exemptions to not have an overall liability, or were below the poverty line and didn’t have any liability to begin with. If anything, a simplified tax code that got rid of the whole exemptions and loop-holes thing would be fine with me, but not requiring EVERYONE to pay federal taxes. Most people are not affluent enough to be able to afford to pay any federal income tax.

Hitler also had two hands. We shouldn’t trust any two-handed people!