Could you expand on what feels sensible about this to you?
Do you believe foreigners are being imported en masse?
How does this threaten “political unity”? What does “political unity” mean?
How does it threaten “societal trust”? What does “societal trust” mean?
How does a “welfare state” that “bails out people who fail to contribute positively to the country” have any unique relevance to immigrants versus [implied] no-good Americans who don’t contribute.
Do safety nets for Americans threaten political unity and societal trust, or is it just when immigrants are beneficiaries?
Well, no. If someone makes a bunch of assertions I disagree with, and also makes a bunch of assertions I agree with I’ll of course express concern or even disdain or whatever about the former assertions while shrugging at the latter.
Ask me about a white-supremacist assertion that’s not mundane-sounding and see if it concerns me.
::shrugs:: They say they want folks who’ll contribute positively to the country, and not folks who won’t; I also want folks who’ll contribute positively to the country, and not folks who won’t. And I’d gladly phrase that in race-neutral terms rather than white-supremacist ones, because my interest is in the positive contribution rather than, y’know, whiteness.
Sounds like you’d have been the type, 50 years ago, to have totally bought the KKK’s line that they were only about protecting and helping white families. ‘Hey, I’m for protecting and helping white families! Sounds good to me.’
Seems to me that a smart person should recognize that if someone who spread bullshit about Jewish-controlled lasers in space is now spreading bullshit about immigrants and supposed Anglo-Saxon culture and values, then they’re probably no different than the assholes who were spreading the same bullshit 50 years ago while also spreading bullshit about Jews and black people.
I guess I’d say that illegal aliens are arriving en masse; “imported” seems like an odd way of phrasing it, but that seems like a quibble compared to the fact of it.
Illegal immigrants. I thought the whole point was, Republicans and Democrats would both pitch their proposals in terms of what’s in the best interests of immigrants who’ve obtained citizenship legally, or second-generation citizens who are here legally, or third- or fourth- or fifth- or sixth-generation citizens who are here legally, and so on — and not on what’s best for others, except insofar as you can bring that back around to arguing that, no, see, here’s why I believe that helping them out will help us out.
I want to hear that argument. I want to hear an argument over whether a given safety-net proposal for me and my fellow citizens will help me and my fellow citizens — and, heck, I even want to hear an argument over whether helping out folks who are here illegally will help me and my fellow citizens. But I’m not especially interested in hearing about whether helping folks who are here illegally will help folks who are here illegally; if it involves leaving me and my fellow citizens worse off, then I don’t want to hear it; and if it involves making me and my fellow citizens better off, then I want to hear that.
I believe an Anglo-Saxon political tradition is that you get to be king by ripping the arm off Gredel and then slaying his mother in a battle that you swam under the water for a day to get to.
Illegal aliens?
First of all they’re not aliens, they’re People. Human beings. JUST LIKE YOU.
Second, there is no American Anglo-Saxon tradition. The British and the French and the Spaniards went out colonizing, murdering the indigenous population and enslaving others specifically imported for that purpose. Anglo-Saxons were immigrants themselves. As are all the other groups who constitute the American people. Your whole country was made by immigrants.
FFS learn your history.
I am willing to cut Reps Gosar and (Gang-)Greene some slack here. They are special snowfwakes with hurt feewings because bwack people and Asian people and Latino people all have caucus so why not the whiteness?
Seriously, there is no “white” culture. Plenty of European-based communities like the Swiss, German, Swedish, etc. manage to maintain their heritage without feeling the need to attack immigrants (of which said communities were once part of). This is just straight-up attempting to mainstream racism by giving it an air of legitimacy as part of political discourse. It will fail.
So you’d have been one of the masses of “moderate” white people who did absolutely nothing to help black people during the Civil Rights movement – at best you would have made this kind of useless rejoinder against the KKK.
It’s more than just inaccurate, though. It’s hateful. And as such, it taints everything else inside. Going through the document to pick apart which clauses you agree with makes you seem like an apologist. At some point, you have to throw the whole thing out and start from scratch.
Yeah right, apologist. If you won’t say anything against the white supremacists who spread bullshit about Jewish conspiracies and “Anglo-Saxon” nonsense today, you wouldn’t have said (much less DONE) anything against the KKK 50 years ago. You’re just a useless little man when it comes to the fight against white supremacists.
Well, both the Angles and the Saxons were furr’ners, after all…
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(Seriously, have the America Firsties thought that through? The culture they’re promoting is foreign, brought here through mass immigration…“imported en masse into a country”, in fact.)
