High Five, you Double Arrogant Bastard!!!
You gotta be dry hoppin’ me. I’ve made some extremely dry hopped batches that I loved (albeit one bottle at a time). Sheesh, don’t get me wrong. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is my benchmark. But IMHO the IPA’s I’ve had in the past year don’t make the grade.
But, obviously from the variety out there and the defense on this board, that at least some of you like that stuff. Then again, I kinda like fermented mares milk so no accounting for taste.
I think the problem is exacerbated by being in the PNW. They really love them hoppy here.
I love a good lager, but lager is never going to be cool. Lawnmower beer is lager; therefore, by the reflexive property, lager is lawnmower beer.
I was thinking more along these lines ( I like Dopplebocks as well, but they’re a tad heavy ), as opposed to this.
My thought exactly. I seriously miss the Thomas Kemper brewery of the early 90’s. They had a German style lager that tasted so much like fresh bread you almost had to chew it. Good Pilsner as well. Sold out to Red Hook…and became a Root Beer company.
Looks yumptious. Hope I get to try some one day.
Attention. Attention. Rauschbier. That is all.
And that’s understandable, given the prevalence of awesome hops there. Might as well
showcase them.
If it was Greene King IPA then it’s not IPA as we know it here either. A reasonable enough session beer, but no IPA.
Bacon sarnie in a glass, yum!
I do remember Greene King IPA, and that was one of them, but I thought there were a few other IPAs I had in my times there that were similar low-alcohol beers. Wikipedia seems to agree that the nomenclature in the UK can be a bit odd about this:
Link.
That said, I’ve also had the more normal English IPAs, like Samuel Smith and Fullers, which are more around the 5% mark.
I do quite like the English style IPAs, as their hop profile and malt base are quite different than the US ones, which are based mainly on hops like Centennial, Cacscade, Amarillo, etc., which tend to be very citrussy and fruity. Amarillo, in particular, is distinctly grapefruit-y. The English hops (like Fuggles and Kent Goldings) tend to be very “spicy” and earthy, and don’t have quite as sharp an attack. And I usually taste a lot more malt/grain in the English IPAs than I do the American ones. I don’t know if it’s because Maris Otter malt is being used, or something else, but the flavors of comparable ABV and IBU IPAs are quite distinct on each side of the pond.
Thank you, thank you, thank you to the OP for saying this… I love me an Ale, Lager, Stout, Pilsner, etc, but not a hoppy (pale) ale… it seems like when I go to a bar that has a wide selection on tap, I feel like I need to put on beer training wheels and order a “Yuengling Lager” (in the Philly area) since everything else is an over-hopped bitter mess.
No, please go on … Ranger is my go-to beer these days, with a Flying Dog Raging Bitch from time to time for the extra alcohol and hop punch.
I get that a lot of people don’t like IPAs but they do usually label them (look for the letters I.P. and A.) so the unweary aren’t taken in. Every now and then I’ll try a pale ale that should have been labeled IPA. That would piss me off if it wasn’t what I was looking for.
A lot of American Pale Ales get into IPA territory. Like Sierra Nevada’s flagship pale ale pretty much straddles the line for me. Someone who doesn’t like IPAs is probably not going to like Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.
I say Sierra Nevada straddles the line at 5% ABV and 38 IBUs, but it is pretty much the archetypal American Pale Ale. Does that particular beer remind you more of an IPA? If so, then your conception of what an American Pale Ale is needs to be recalibrated a bit.
I have always felt the same.
I used to like it just fine, but the older I get, the tougher the hops are on my stomach.
So if you don’t like hoppy, what about a nice sour beer? Like Russian River Consecration (or any of ther vairety of sours) or New Belgium La Folie.
Werd
You surely must be thinking of Supplication.
I don’t care for most IPAs - but I like Sierra Nevada just fine. Not a favorite, but very drinkable. So I guess that pegs my tolerance meter. I can waltz right up to the IPA line, but I really don’t care for much over it.