You keep saying this.
If you’d state your meaning and certainty, people could fairly ask to make a wager on it. It is certain he’s gone in a year? 75% likely he’s gone in 3? Three years seems a bit long for “the near future” but in fairness that would still mean he was fired during the contract he’s on now (it runs out in 2019) which certainly constitutes an early exit.
So what’re we talking?
The waffling was referring to back-channel conversations assuming he was going to reduce the penalty. I’ll say in this case, good for Roger. He stuck to his guns.
In terms of gauging public opinion, I guess he just sucks at it. He tried to keep the Ray Rice thing under the rug, just like he did with Spygate way back in 07. Honestly, the Ray Rice situation alone is enough to call Goodell an idiot.
I don’t know if he’s involved with this 2 point conversion change nonsense, but that’s solving a problem that doesn’t exist.
Yes, he fucked up the Ray Rice thing. That’s a huge black check mark on his tenure. But considering he got the CBA done, that he’s apparently handled the CTA lawsuits, and the money that keeps pouring in, I think he cannot fairly be called dumb.
What about Spygate did he try to “keep under the rug”?
I am with you on this one. Peter King is trotting out the 99.5% success rate in the past 5 or 10 years. As if it was dramatically less in the 90s or something.
I’m no fan of Goodell, but at this point I’m kinda looting for a long, Pats-hating reign.
I’m going to take the controversial stance that you shouldn’t be looting for anything.
Well, yes and no.
Goodell supposedly destroyed the tapes.
So, he penalized the organization, then got rid of the evidence that the league said proved their guilt.
You could say he tried to sweep it under the rug in that those tapes will never be made public, and no one will ever be able to measure what actual advantage the Patriots were getting from those tapes.
I find it hard to believe that they were not getting value out of those tapes. I have no idea what was on them, but why destroy them? Because once they were destroyed, no one can ask to look at them again. The evidence can never be debated, and it did largely go away. It wasn’t really revisited until deflatriot-gate, when it was used in the decision to hammer the organization harder. There is, the NFL office’s opinion, evidence that this culture of cheating is fostered by the Patriots themselves, and specifically under Belichick and Kraft. The Patriots weren’t happy about losing a 1st round pick from spygate, but they accepted that ruling also.
Maybe because they knew the truth, and realized that fighting it was pointless.
I find it laughable/pathological that now a certain apologist thinks the agreement by Kraft not to continue his pathetic lawsuit is an indication that Goodell is gone.
Can’t tell anyone when yet. Just the “near future”.
What a joke. Is Goodell going to die in office? No, he’s not a pope. So we all know he’s going to “go” eventually.
“Near future”? That sounds soon! Is it 3 months? 6? A year? Or when his contract runs out?
If Goodell gets hit by a bus, I am pretty sure one person in this thread would deem that proof that he was right, and the owners hired the bus driver. :rolleyes:
Guess what? Kraft accepted the ruling, so they will lose the draft picks and the money. Organization = guilty.
I seriously doubt that Brady’s appeal, if it actually goes forward, will remove his suspension. It may reduce it, but since Kraft dropped his lawsuit, it strengthens Goodell’s position.
They are going to accept an organizational punishment as is, but the NFL is going to remove the suspension from the player whose actions caused all of this in the first place? Doubtful…
Even if they reduce his suspension a game or two, it doesn’t matter. Brady won’t get this expunged from his record. It will always be a part of him and his legacy. Great QB… and a cheat.
Destroying the tapes was probably a blunder; I don’t know that he ever precisely explained his reasoning, but it was probably something along the lines of “illegally obtained tapes that could yield a competitive advantage probably shouldn’t be available for review.”
The thing is, before they were destroyed, they were played on a loop for the media. Also, Jay Glazer of Fox apparently has a copy (that leak may be one of the reasons they were destroyed too). If there were anything on there beyond the other teams’ sidelines, we’d probably know about it by now.
The other thing that I think people tend to overlook is that all those tapes were voluntarily turned over by the Patriots (pseudo-voluntarily at least; the league demanded them, but the team is the one who decided what to send. It’s not like they conducted a raid.). It stretches credibility that the Patriots would have sent stuff that was any more incriminating than what they were already accused of.
Dan Le Batard is refreshingly even-handed in his fuck-'em-all approach. Yes, the writer who sold his baseball Hall of Fame ballot is lecturing Goodell on morality.
Making it up as he goes along? Sounds like Goodall and you have something in common.
Hey! Remember that Ray Rice thing? When Goodell really screwed up!!! Remember that!!! Yeah, that means the Patriots didn’t do anything wrong!!!
No later than the end of his current contract. The likeliest scenario is nonrenewal, not actual firing.
It’s a strong suspicion, not the result of analysis, obviously. :dubious:
Anybody who wants to both define numbers and wager on them is welcome. If you’re trying to ban opinion from this forum, then please so state.
There’s still a 91% rate on 32 yarders, still a chip shot. Even if kickers don’t get better at that distance, it still means an actual effect on the score once every 3 or 4 games or so, and an actual effect on the win/loss rarely enough that it doesn’t matter.
So, no facts? Just even *more *eighth-grade invective? :rolleyes:
Pity.
That’s in 2018.
So you’re positing that Kraft agreed to not appeal the team’s punishment, not because its a waste of time or a bad business decision, but instead in order to wait 4 fucking years and $300 million dollars to get someone’s contract not renewed?
I just love it. Your posts are gifts that just keep giving.
No. But you do have quite an imagination.
The best part is that you don’t even need them. :rolleyes:
Well, I’ll say this for LeBatard: the fans he allowed to vote for the Hall of Fame made perfectly respectable choices.
I’ve responded comprehensively and copiously with facts all throughout the discussion of deflategate. I’ve done so in order to counter endless flights of fantasy offered by zealots (“maybe they inflated the balls in a sauna,” “Anderson never gauged the balls before the game,” “only one ball was below the limit,” “Goodell is going to back down.”)
I’ve provided so many fact-based challenges that I’ve been called obsessive on this topic.
In contrast, you’ve provided a steady stream of wishes and fantasies, nonsense and efforts at distraction. You’ve been described as being akin to Baghdad Bob on this subject.
#patsterisk
Well, I asked you before for your thoughts on what actually happened, and you ignored it. Now you post: “IOW in return Goodell is gone in the near future.” and I’m wrong to conclude that it meant that Goodell would be gone if Kraft gave up the fight? I get that the facts and objective analysis isn’t even close to your strong suit, but how about you actually say what you mean instead of playing games?