Return of the Jedi random discussion question...

Probably because people just see their fuzzy “cute” stature and immediately equate them to teddy bears, therefore don’t get much respect. I never considered how impressive their accomplishments were, I suppose.

Similarly, it’s interesting that Oola is afforded NO leeway or respect from Jabba (killed as soon as she resists, even though she seems pretty darned scared to make him mad) while Leia is given seemingly a bit more of a break from Jabba (she is outright disgusted by Jabba and he just laughs it off)

Did Leia just catch Jabba in a good mood when she became a slave or what?

Perhaps Oola had been his slave girl for a while, and he was tired of her. Also, Leia was something of a new plaything to toy with, what with her attempt to rescue Han and Luke’s threats and all. I imagine part of Jabba’s fun with the slaves is being all pervy on them and disgusting them. He just got rid of Oola because he was tired of her.

One flaw in your theory - how do you explain the fat dancer?

And why did he throw Oola to the Rancor, and keep the fat one, anyway? I mean, if I’m the one in charge, I know which one I want around.

I’m sorry, what was the topic? My mind sort of wandered there…

Here’s a thought. We know that Leia’s rescue plan was compromised in some way, because Jabba was waiting there with his court when she went to Han. But we don’t know how he knew, or how much he knew. It’s possible that he killed Oola because he had been advised by his intelligence network that Leia was coming to rescue Han, and he was making room for his new acquisition.

Leia is also much more of a prestige trophy than Oola was. She gets more slack because of that.

What, is there some sort of quota on slave girls for criminal overlords?

IRS inspector: “Now see here, Mr. Hutt, Imperial regulation 27.33.245.16a clearly states that you are not allowed to own more than 2 dancing girls at any one time.”

Jabba: “Dammit, I don’t want to pay a fine. Bib Fortuna, execute the blue dancing girl over there. No, not that one, the ugly one. Sigh One of these days - pow - right in the kisser!”

Heh - that’s certainly true. I’ll wager Oola was a bit of a diva compared to Leia too. Leia managed to just lay-low . . . As soon as Oola put the spotlight on herself and then tried to escape she pretty much guaranteed swift and harsh punishment. She didn’t give Jabba much of a choice if he wanted to maintain his leadership role amongst the other thugs…

I always assumed it did cross his mind, and that a major reason he licked her is that he’s a sadist and had a good idea exactly how much that would gross out Leia. And of course the whole power trip aspect of forcing her to do something. I also assumed that was why he had her in the harem girl outfit; because he knew it would embarrass her.

Here’s what we know about Ewoks from what’s on screen:

  1. They eat humanoids.

  2. They have an entire war machine ready at a moment’s notice complete with a full army, catapults, an armed air force, elaborate traps, and relatively sophisticated battle tactics.

I’m not sure they are cuddly teddy bears as much as they are cannibals constantly at war with other Ewok tribes

Forget all the books and expanded universe backstories, why on God’s green Earth would Lucas spend half the 2nd movie establishing what a badass Boba Fett was, only to have him die like a moronic red -shirt in the 3rd movie?

I bolded your answer.

Because Boba Fett was, fundamentally, a moronic red-shirt. The only reason he got played up as much as he did was because his toy was rare and hard to get, and therefore a status symbol among kids.

But the movie was before the toy.

How exactly did Boba Fett get played up that much? Yeah he tracked down Han, but “half the movie”? Really? He was in like three scenes

By the time the green disco-dancing chick appeared at Jabba’s here’s what I was thinking:
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What the fuck is with all the goddamn muppets and puppets and stupid cornball childish bullshit in this movie!?! Star Wars blows!*

May have had something to do with being 12 when Star Wars came out and 18 when Jedi did…

Exactly. In the DVD commentary for ROTJ George is like “I had no idea people even liked Boba Fett. Had I known I would have included a shot of him crawling out or something,” which is exactly what happens in the Expanded Universe (but then again, in the EU, the Emperor had a bunch of mindless clone bodies for him to possess so he didn’t really die for good at the end of ROTJ either. It’s shit like that that makes me hate the EU).

“No disintergrations!”

For every simply horrendous decision the EU makes, there’s a brilliant one. Star Wars is pretty simple, us vs them, good vs evil. While there’s no debating that it’s interesting and fun, it’s a bit lacking in… complexity. The EU has scores of characters who are Sith (or Dark Jedi, or Gray Jedi, or whatever) because they legitimately felt the Dark Side would better allow them to fight off threats and protect people, or that the silly and sometimes ridiculous Jedi Codes did much more harm than good. You KIND of got this in the prequels with Anakin’s fall wrt Padme, but moral complexity happens pretty frequently in the EU.

Not that I’m really that well versed, but I was surprised from binging on Wookieepedia last night how much “they’re Dark but not Evil” or “they’re light but not strictly the guy you want ruling you” that was going on.

you may have just pinpointed why some of the EU stuff I’ve read doesn’t “feel” like Star Wars to me. I like moral complexity in a lot of things, but Star Wars isn’t one of them.

It was in production before the toy, but the toy was available before the movie was released. The original version was one of those “send in some proof of purchases from a bunch of figures and some money for shipping and we’ll send you a freebie” things used as a “sneak peek”.

Also, even before that, Mr. Fett showed up in the animated segment of the special that we dare not name.

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