It looks to me that IS-IL is trying to provoke USA to send in ground troops in Syrie and Irak to fight them.
Are they trying to create and play some kind of reversed proxy war ?
Isn’t a reversed proxy war just, you know, a war?
The OP should he aware that while the first sentence makes some sense, the second sentence makes the whole OP just a WTF???
Are they (IS-IL) trying to create and play some kind of reversed proxy war ?
What is a reversed proxy war? Who’s the proxy here, and for whom?
Sure, ISIL is trying to lure us into a reverse proxy war, but currently the West is using the Mornington Crescent strategy of undoing the reverse proxy with with a double indirect false flag assault, combined with an underhanded strategic information operations preparation of the battlespace on the Northern Line.
No terrorist group has ever withstood that pincers movement of advanced concept with joint application, so our victory is inevitable. It just may take some time, as the English learned in the Southwark campaign of 1972.
A proxy war is when two, usually larger, powers don’t want to fight each other directly, so they support different sides in the internal conflicts of smaller countries. There really isn’t any way to “reverse” that.
Are you suggesting that Da-esh is trying to lure the US and Russia in to fight each other?
Are you simply suggesting that Da-esh is trying to lure the US into a ground war in Syria? If so, that would not be a “reverse proxy war”.
Those are definitely provocative phrases but I sense you are trying to reverse provoke us.
Yes something like that. As I have understood, Isils ambition is to to establish a caliphate in the Middle East. And to do so they need to weakens USA, Russia and possible EU (especially USA).
They say as much in every issue of their official magazine:
[QUOTE=Cracked’s article on ISIS’ Magazine]
Every issue of Dabiq begins with the same quote: “The spark has been lit here in Iraq, and its heat will continue to intensify – by Allah’s permission – until it burns the crusader armies in Dabiq.” And here’s where the magazine gets its name.
Dabiq is an area in Northern Syria where, according to prophecy, Allah will do the whole “pillar of salt” thing on the armies of the West. For that to happen, we need to actually put our armies in Dabiq first. One thing reading 11 issues of Dabiq makes very clear is that ISIS considers a future U.S.-led invasion to be inevitable. They view the regional powers around them as destined to fall and, when that happens, in rides Uncle Sam and out pops the apocalypse.
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So it’s basically:
Step 1: Get the world’s most powerful armies to commit to a full scale war against us.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit!
Mornington Crescent or reverse proxy both make as much sense as anything about “the Caliphate” does.
on the other hand…
but then…
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and not to forget
So they are created by Russia, Turkey and the U.S… and possibly the Martian High Command (no link) for various reasons including provoking the second coming of Jesus, lots of stuff to do with oil and gas pipes, to destabilise Russia, Turkey, Europe and the U.S., kick off a regional Sunni Shia war and facilitate the Martian imposition of a New World Order.
It’s quite simple really.
Perhaps ISIS/ISIL is trying to glue us down to the Middle East and…
Oh, never mind! :smack: That would be an e-poxy war!
They seem to be trying to get, literally, everyone to send troops over to fight them. Or bomb the crap out of them. Or generally be pissed off at them. Since they think that we are close to the end times and they are basically a fundamentalist apocalypse religion it makes sense from their perspective…if they can bring about the final battle between good and evil (they see themselves as ‘good’, obviously :p) it will, um, do something and something something religious. I have never understood why the end times and apocalypse and such are good, but folks like these clearly see the benefit (72 virgins and all the beer you can drink I guess).
As others have noted, ‘reverse proxy war’ is just a war. If you mean have everyone else fight them, then yes…clearly they are trying to do that, regardless of how nuts that seems to anyone who doesn’t subscribe to their news letter. If you mean somehow this will cause us all to fight each other (or maybe the Russians and US/NATO) then I doubt it, though they might have some inkling now that this could happen as a very outside probability. I don’t think it would fit into their narrative to have us going after each other and sort of ignoring them, nor the spot they have picked out for themselves as the centerpiece in this apocalypse narrative of them fighting The World™ to a standstill in the ME and then it all going boom with them getting to go to heaven.
What are those linked articles about? The way you posted them we can’t even see the damn titles.
Da-esh doesn’t realize that if they do lure us in, we are planning to use The Corbomite Maneuver!
It seams that they intend to drag USA and their allies to the Middle East. Why then the recent terror-attack in USA and Europe ??
Sorry. The articles just demonstrate that “the Caliphate” are apparently so flexible in their nature that any opinion, no matter how contradictory to any other opinion, can be projected onto them.
To drag the USA and their allies to the Middle East. Although the attack in the US doesn’t seem to have beed directed by Da-esh, even if the perps were sympathetic. Still that is part of their M.O. Get people all riled up and ready to spread mayhem.
I don’t support an American invasion. However, there’s a flaw to the argument, “Daesh wants us to invade, so we shouldn’t.” Daesh wants to you to invade because they think God will kill you. What will happen if you invade and God doesn’t do shit?
Oh God will do something for sure - it just may end up being mysterious. He does that.