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2008 Hyundai Elantra GLS

List price: $13,625
List price as tested: $16,500
Average price paid by buyers as tested (according to Edmunds/TMV): $15,100
Engine/transmission: 2.0L inline 4-cylinder, DOHC; 132hp @ 3,400 rpm
Options fitted to test car: 4-speed automatic transmission;“Popular Options” package, highlights of which are a six-speaker XM/AM/FM/CD stereo, power windows, remote door locks, alarm, immobilizer, air conditioning (thank god) and an in-window FM antenna.
Configuration: 4-door sedan
Size: Bit tricky, this one. It’s the same basic dimensions as the Focus/Civic/Corolla/3/Golf/Astra with which it’s supposed to compete, but the EPA classifies it as a “midsize” vehicle based on its (humongous) interior volume.
Performance: 0-60 8.8 seconds, 129mph top speed (manual)
Fuel economy (EPA): 25 city, 33 highway

Now that we’ve got the specs out of the way, down to the nitty-gritty…

I am uniquely qualified to test the new-for-2007-and-slightly-redesigned-for-2008 Elantra. Why, you ask? Well, (1) I’ve just bought one, and (2) I’ve spent the last six years (almost to the day) driving its dad, the 2001-2006 3rd generation Elantra. I also tested nearly all of its competitors over the last three weeks.

First thoughts on the exterior: Oooh! It’s actually sort of pretty, as bland econoboxes go. The overall shape is a bit odd- you can tell it was designed to maximize interior space rather than look-at-me-ness - but the details make it work very well. It looks better, at least to my taste, than nearly any of its rivals, although the current Civic is definitely better looking if you’re going for a sporty look, but you’d have to spend at least $3000 more to get one with alloy wheels, and the Civic’s stock steel wheels/covers are fugly. The Elantra only comes with alloys if you go for the range-topping SE, but the standard wheel covers are quite nice. The nicest touch, looks-wise, is that the sides of the car are extremely sleek, with unobtrusive door handles and no side moldings at all. This shows off the pronounced wavy “waistline” that runs the length of the car to good effect. Of course, the lack of moldings also means you’re going to have a couple dings from the idiots who open their doors too far.

Let’s look in the trunk before we get in. Golly. It’s massive. The outgoing model had a good-sized space, enough for two Samsonite-style (hardside) suitcases, plus all your ancillary carryon stuff. This one looks like it will take three. The only problem here is that it’s pretty deep, ie. I can’t touch the seatback without putting my knee on the trunk floor, and not very wide.

Okay, into the car. Electronic trunk release button is mounted on the driver’s door, rather than the usual pull-handle next to the seat. Nice touch. The fuel filler cap is accessed by a conventional seat-side pull tab. The interior is nice. Not very nice, but nice. None of that all-digital nonsense from the Civic, which feels like the set used for the bridge of the starship Enterprise, and is about as functional. The quality isn’t going to send Volkswagen (unquestioned king of small-car interior quality) back to the drawing board, but it’s a rather agreeable place to be nonetheless. It certainly doesn’t feel like it should be $2000 cheaper than the competition. One really nice touch is blue backlighting for everything- instrument panel, center console switches, door switches (power mirror adjuster, power windows, power locks), keyhole, and even the cigarette lighter. I’ve seen a couple of cars with blue backlighting for the instruments, but green or yellow for the center console. This looks about a million times better.

The stereo is confusing as heck. The radio/CD bits are simple enough; it’s the XM part I’m having to come to grips with. I’ll put this down to my complete lack of experience with XM for now. It sounds pretty good, at least, which is an improvement from the old model. The XM is a premium bonus that neither the Corolla or Civic offer as standard. I didn’t particularly want it, but it’s probably one of those things that I won’t be able to live without in a month.

It comes with six airbags. None of its competitors come with more than two as standard. It isn’t a big selling point for me, but I’m sure there’s a legion of parents and worry-worts out there who will love that.

Heated door mirrors (operated by the rear window defogger button) are a carryover from the old model. I don’t know why Hyundai has a hard-on for heating mirrors, but it was occasionally a handy feature. Probably more handy to non-Floridians.

The dashboard has heaps of stowage spage. In addition to the smallish glovebox, there’s a cubby with a lid on top of the dash which is perfect for a prepaid toll transponder. There’s also two good sized cubbies above and below the A/C controls, and two compartments in the center console. There’s also a decent-sized sunglass holder that flips down from the headliner. The cupholders have spring-mounted tabs that presumably keep undersized cups/bottles from wobbling.

I don’t have much to say about the seats yet, since I’ve only done about 50 miles in it. The driver gets eight-way adjustment, which is nice.

Probably my favorite thing about the interior is the gear selector lever on the automatic model. It has a stepped gate, like a Mercedes or Jag, instead of a detent button - very swish.

My only gripes are with the extra-fat steering wheel, which obscures the view of the instrument cluster no matter what height it’s at (but feels nice and chunky), and requires uber-long thumbs to comfortably use the cruise control buttons. There’s also a sort of diamond-plate-looking plastic finish on the bottom of the cupholders, which experience tells me will absorb dirt and sticky residue like a… sticky thing.

Here’s a good picture of the dashboard: http://image.motortrend.com/f/auto_shows/coverage/new_york/8257505/112_06nyas_02z+2007_2007_hyundai_elantra+interior_view.jpg

Now - on to the drive!

It rides nicely. Not too soft that your butt goes numb, but softly enough to muffle all but the biggest bumps and holes.

Handling is pretty much what you’d expect- not that much feel from the steering wheel, but communicative enough to let you know when the front end lets go. Enter a corner too quickly and you’ll get enough understeer to let you know you shouldn’t try anything like that again soon. I haven’t really pushed it to the limit yet, but experience with the old one tells me that Hyundai’s suspension engineers shoot for predictable understeer all the way into the nearest ditch. If you’re not a boy-racer you’ll have absolutely no complaints with the chassis and suspension.

Performance is more of the same. Not going to win any races, is the Elantra, but it has more than enough get up and go for any driving situation, including big hills. It’s certainly quicker than its rivals, except the Mazda 3. It’s also remarkably quiet for a car this size - not nearly as buzzy as the 1.6 and 1.8 liter alternatives, and not as rough at low revs as larger 4-cylinders. I’m not a big fan of the gearbox, which takes slightly longer to kick down than I’d like, and holds second for too long if you aren’t stepping on the gas. I’m told that the transmission control module is adaptive and will improve after a couple thousand miles. We’ll see.

I do not likey the brakes. They work fine, but the pedal travel is just wayyy too short. It feels like a go-kart - any pedal pressure at all and the car slows so fast you get the impression it wants to submarine under the road surface. It’s more like an on/off switch than a brake control. Hopefully this will improve, or I’ll adapt. Right now, it’s really hard work applying just enough pressure to slow the car without bringing it to a screeching halt. It does come with 4-wheel ABS as standard, which is handy, since otherwise I’d probably be locking the brakes every 100 feet.

So, there you have my review. Overall, I’d rate the car (on its own merits) as good for most needs, but so-so for mine. Taking price into account, though, it really has to be considered outstanding.

1985 Ford LTD LX

List price: unknown
List price as tested: $2,500
Average price paid by buyers as tested: unknown
Engine/transmission: 165hp 302 cid OHV V8, Ford AOD 4-speed automatic transmission
options: “LX” package which includes the HO-302 cid OHV V8 w/CFI, handling package (quick-ratio rack and pinion steering, HD springs, struts, shocks, anti-sway bars), Traction-Lok differential, bucket seats w/inflatable lumbar support, power seats, windows, mirrors, and door locks
Configuration: 4-door sedan
Size: mid-sized sedan.
Performance: no idea
Fuel economy: about 22 mpg overall

Hey, it’s a fun car! It’s basically a 1985 Mustang GT in sheep’s clothing. It has all the same underpinnings in the drivetrain, brakes and suspension, but dressed up as a four-door LTD. This was when Ford made two different LTDs: the big square ones you remember from Men In Black, and the mid-sized ones built on the same Fox chassis as the Mustangs (and earlier Fairmonts and Granadas).

Air bags? What?!? Put your darn seat belt on! ABS? Who?!? Just be glad it has disc brakes and a dual-circuit brake setup! Cargo capacity? When I brought it home, there were four extra rims with tires mounted, a spare sway bar, a spare computer, spare tail lights, a spare air dam, other miscellaneous parts and my tools and luggage in the car with me.

Anyway, the driving characteristics are pretty much the same as any Fox-chassis V8 Mustang. A little front-heavy, a little bump-steer on bad roads, the brake discs have a tendency to overheat and warp under heavy usage. On the other hand, for a mid-80’s American sedan, it handles like a slot car. It’s all a matter of what you’re used to.

The cooling system has been one problem after another. Leaking left side head gasket. Clogged radiator. Failed water pumps. Heater core (let me just say that whoever’s responsible for the location of heater cores on Fox-chassis Fords ought to be shot).

Mine has full dual exhaust with mild Flowmasters. Yep, I love the deep sound of a rumbly V8. I’ve got Mustang 10-slot rims with generic Ford centercaps and 225-60R15 tires all around, so it looks fairly nice for an old beater. And it’s really fun to watch the mechanics and car guys see it for the first time, as many of them never heard of the LTD LX; only about 3000 of them were built. The guy at the auto parts store (a huge Fox-Ford fan) was practically drooling when I went to get a part for it once. We had a little trouble finding the right model on the computer, and when he found out the car was parked right outside, he had to go out and look it over. Fun. When a mechanic or someone asks you, “man, where did you find that thing??”…ah, good times.

But it needs some work right now. The water pump has crapped out again and it could use a new set of tires and struts and shocks and a new exhaust system. (Yeah, sounds like the ambulance in Ghostbusters.) It will stay here, whether I ever fix it or not, unless I’m persuaded to sell it by someone just as nutty as me.

3aaat, is this: http://www.avonhill.com/thumbnails/sedan_domestic/1985_Ford_LTD.jpeg your car?

Yes, that’s a 1985 fox-chassis LTD, but it isn’t an LX. The car in this ad is an LX. On the outside, there’s just a few trim differences, the most obvious being the body-color grill instead of the chrome grill. Also, LX’s only came in white, grey, and black. Interesting, the white car in the ad still has the original 14" rims on it, which is fairly unusual. I still have mine, but they’re not on the car.

Miralto brass-tipped alligator shoes. $40. They make me look like an Italian gigolo. This is a false impression, however, as I am of Swedish origin.

Shoes:
Timberland classic 6" boots in wheat nubuck. Size 13 and wide enough to hold my orthotics. List price: $150.00, price at factory outlet shop: $89.95.

It’s a boot - not a whole lot to say about it. Keeps the sharp stuff on the ground away from my feet. When you think “work boot” this is probably the image you have in your mind.

Train:
BART, or Bay Area Rapid Transit.
One-way fare: $5.15.
Speed: Only occasionally rapid.
Engine: Beats me. Some sort of big electric motors.
Standard body style: Aluminum monocoque construction with two sliding platform doors on each side, plus doors at each end to allow moving to another car.
Size: Far larger than would fit in my driveway.
Options: One flickering overheadlight and one smelly vagrant per car come standard. Available options are air conditioning that’s freezing at one end of the car and steamy hot at the other end, cloth seats pre-dampened with unspeakable fluids. Audio system options are your choice of an inaudibly quiet PA system or an ear-shattering grind noise that blots out the train operator’s announcements.
Long-term reliability: Sometimes good, with random short bouts of disfunction, but occasionally fouled up in ways humans can not comprehend.

2000 Kis Sephia

List price: Somewhere south of $12,000
Second-hand price: $4000
Size: Compact
Performance: feels kind of slow to accelerate, but I generally leave SUVs and Pickups in adjacent lanes far behind at lights (it’s a automatic, ftr)
Fuel economy (EPA): currently 20-24 mpg

I bought this car 2 days before Christmas in 2006. It hadn’t cost me a lot to maintain - until this spring. Remember me bitching about all the snow? Surely you do. While digging it out yet again in February or March, a black … thing found its way to the ground. Part of the trim fell off, I thought.

Oh no, that wasn’t it at all. Apparently the previous owner had allowed the body to rust through in huge holes under the door frame and body. I mean 6" wide, nearly the length of the front doors kind of huge. He did a wonderful job on the cosmetics, but apparently was somewhat confused by the rolls of duct tape sold near the bondo, and decided to use that as the base for the repairs of said massive holes. :eyeroll: As you can imagine, it held up really well once there had been enough snow. It took a lot of time and labor (and a lot of help) to fix it with a solid base so it won’t need to be redone next winter too. Grrr. Sure looked pretty before it fell apart, though - looked just like the rest of the car.

So that repair, and $500 more work on brakes and other things (winter pretty much killed several parts underneath, being garageless does that to cars) to make it pass inspection, and a battery, are what I’ve had to spend money on in the past year and a half.

I don’t recommend this car to people considering it. Maybe I’m expecting too much, but I find it astonishing that rust damaged the car to that degree in less than six years. That’s a big fat negative in my book. Plus the back seat doesn’t fold down, which is a pain. I think your $4,000 can be better spent on another vehicle.

2004 Renault Clio

Cost New - around £9000

Worth now - around £3500

Engine Size - 1.2

Size - 5 door compact

Colour deep blue (kinda indigo)

auto/manual? - man

General info

This car is a great little run around and is also very comfy on long journeys. Good factory fitted cd player and a generous boot space. My sister has had three clios and my friend has had two. I think my next car may be a mazda 2 - just for the change. But I do love this car!

My friend has requested that I review her shoes!

** 2003 Hush Puppies**

Model Slip on

Price New £40

Worth now Not a lot!

Interior missing insoles, hard plastic exposed. smells a little

bodywork faded black, creased leather, couple of scuffs

Overall performance they do the job for work but leave three hole shape scars on the heels of feet as there is no insole (the hard plastic exposed has three holes cut out). Have lasted well seeing as shoes dont usually last that long at her present job.

2008 BMW 335xi

List price: $43,000
List price as tested: $48,420
**Average price paid by buyers as tested (according to Edmunds/TMV): ** $47,500 (That seems high - I didn’t pay nearly that much)
Engine/transmission: 3.0L inline DOHC, 6 cylinder; 300hp; 300ft/lb torque at 1400rpm; 24 valve; twin turbocharger
Options fitted to test car: Premium package (premium leather, bluetooth, dimming mirrors, power seats, etc), heated seats, satellite radio
**Configuration: ** 2-door coupe
Size: It’s only a 2-door, but 4 adults can ride fairly comfortably
Performance: 0-60 4.9 seconds, 155mph top speed (manual)
Fuel economy (EPA): 16 city, up to 28 highway

OK, the gas mileage sucks, but as soon as I test drove this car I fell in love with it. The pickup and acceleration will blow you away, and it handles like a dream on windy roads. This is the kind of car you want to take out on Sunday afternoon and put through its paces just for the pleasure of driving (if you can afford the gas!).

The interior is very comfortable and pretty well laid out, although not as nicely appointed as what you’d expect for the money. The leather and wood trim is beautifully done, but I find it hard to believe that you can spend that much on a car and only have a single CD player, and the sound system controls are not very intuitive. The interior space is good for a coupe and the trunk space is generous.

Comparing it with my last car, an Audi A4, the interior amenities are not quite as good, but performance is far superior.

I love this car, and I’m just amazed that I’m lucky enough to be able to have it.

Intellichoice says the “target price” is $41,339, although it doesn’t let you specify options which would probably bring the price up to what TMV said.

Anyway, I’m jealous now. :mad:

I’m sorry!! But, man, I love this car. I mean, I’ve had it for 6 months and I still park it where I can see from my office window so I can just look at it. I can’t believe it’s mine!

1986 Toyota MR2

List price: $11,298
List price as tested: $2,400
Engine/transmission: 1.8L 4 cylinder naturally aspirated fuel injection; 110hp, 2,231 lbs;
Options fitted to test car: Um … it’s got a CD player
Configuration: mid-engine, 2 seat, rear wheel drive
Size: go-kart
Performance: 0-60 hey, life is a grand prix, 150 mph top speed (manual)
Fuel economy (EPA): 25 city, 30 highway

Sit down, strap in, hang on. Any kid can stomp on the gas pedal and point the car straight, this is a driver’s car. I’d write more but I’m going for a drive. :cool:

Damn, that’s quick.
“…twin turbocharger”
No wonder.

Before I settled on Porsche, I test drove BMW’s new (I think) 550i and 750i. That 5 was hella fast and tight. iDrive was the only thing negating a sale.

2008 MINI Cooper S
Dark blue with the classic white hardtop and mirrors.

List price: $21,850
List price as tested: ~$26,000
Engine/transmission: Turbocharged, 1.6-Liter Overhead cam, 4 - cyl. 172 hp.
6-Speed Automatic Transmission with Steering Wheel Mounted Agitronic Paddle Shifters
Options fitted to test car: Automatic transmission; Dual Panoramic Sunroof; While Bonnet Stripes; Heated Front Seats and Mirrors; Bluetooth (for handfree phone) and iPod adaptor; many more.
Configuration: I guess it would be considered a 2-door hatchback
Size: Smallish outside, huge inside.
Performance: 0-60 6.7 seconds, top speed 137 mph (auto)
Fuel economy (EPA): 32 highway, 23 city, 27 combined. (Seems accurate to real life performance.)

I’ve wanted a MINI since I first saw them at the NYC Auto Show the year before they were released in the US. Gas prices and weird electrical issues in my Durango finally spurred me to make the leap about a month and a half ago.

I’m not much into cars, so the fact that I enjoy driving it this much is a little stunning to me. It really lives up to its reputation of cornering on rails; with the Sport mode turned on (which is how I normally drive it), I can blast around curves at high speed with almost no lean, and dash into tiny parking spaces with just a last minute flick of the wheel. I have to watch my speed on the highway because I can hit 90 without really feeling like I’m going that fast. My husband, the car nut, says that his 350Z is still more powerful, but conceeds that my handling is better (and keeps borrowing my car at every excuse).

The inside is far bigger than it appears; I’m a big person and over 6’ tall, and I have plenty of room - about the same amount of space as my Durango gave me. With a large driver pushing the seats way back you’re not going to be able to fit large of people in the rear seats, though. The window configuration definitely gives me better visibility than the SUV, aside from an odd blindspot to the left and back that gave me a few bad moments the first couple of weeks after I bought the car. With the (huge) dual sunroofs open, I don’t regret at all not buying the convertable, as it feels like almost nothing is around me.

The thing comes with an amazing number of weird (but fun!) little pluses, such as two driver’s side visors (so you never need to move the front one over to block the sun). And mood lighting that you can dial to whatever shade you want to in between dark blue and red.

I adore my car.

I have been waiting for EVER for a manufacturer to think of that. I hate having to unclip the visor to put it up against the side window.

Hmm, which car to review? Guess I’ll do the easy one:

1994 Mazda RX7

List price when new: ~35,000 (?)
Price now: ~$16,000
Engine/transmission: 1.3L turbocharged 2-rotor Wankel; 255hp, 217 tq (stock) 5sp MT
Options fitted to test car: Touring package (moonroof, leather, cruise, foglights)
Configuration: 2-door coupe
Size: ~2800 lbs
Stock performance: 0-60 5.1 seconds, 159mph top speed (power limited)
Current performance: 0-60 ~4 seconds, 180mph+ top speed, a definite contender for fastest/quickest car on the SDMB
Fuel economy (EPA): 17 city, 25 highway (HA!)
Current fuel economy: 18 combined
Modifications: APEXi Power FC standalone fuel computer/engine management, downpipe, midpipe (catless), Racing Beat single tip cat-back exhaust, Hawk HPS pads, fan mod, Fluidyne radiator, Cusco front strut tower bar, 99 spec wheels, 99 spec tails, 99 spec emblems

This car is small, low to the ground, loud, smelly, unreliable, has very limited cargo space and gets poor fuel economy. It is the best car I have ever owned. :wink:

1992 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution I GSR

List price when new: No idea
Price now: Eh, I think they go for about $9k on the autotrader.
Engine/transmission: 2.0l turbocharged DOHC Inline 4 cylinder. My engine is a transplant from a late 90s Mitsubishi RVR minivan, fitted to the Evo’s original intake, exhaust, intercooler, turbo, and ECU. No idea about power but probably not far off from the ~240hp/228 tq it originally came with. The RVR had a slightly different cam profile for flatter torque curves and a slightly lower top end. 5 spd manual gearbox.
Options fitted to test car: Looks like some rust is appearing at the edges of the roof and rear left quarter panel. Melon shooter exhaust tip. Original floor mats. Full size spare tire(!). Bidgestone Potenza RE01 tires. 131,000km on the clock, ~101,000 km on the engine.
Configuration: 4 door sedan
Size: 2579lbs
Stock performance: 0-60 5.1 seconds.
Fuel economy: No idea and have never cared. I’m guessing probably about as good as a 1/4 ton truck. Uses 94 Octane ethanol blended fuel
Modifications: Radiator started leaking so I replaced it with an aluminum model from Ebay. KYB adjustable front suspension. $99 Sony Cd player.

It’s a small AWD sedan that weighs ~2500lbs and has 240hp. Who could possibly need more car than that? Madame Mangrove especially loves the cement like suspension, close ratio gearbox, and having to constantly scream over the roaring of the exhaust.

Ford had two drivers-side visors on the '93 Taurus. No idea if they still do it.

2008 Mazda Mazdaspeed3

List price: Around $24,000 for the GT
Engine/transmission: 2.3L inline 4-cylinder, DISI, Turbo; 263hp, 280 ft-lbs. torque. 6-speed manual transmission.
Configuration: 4-door hatch
Acceleration: 0-60 about 6 seconds, 153 MPH top speed
Braking: 60-0 in 116 feet
Fuel economy (EPA): 18 city, 26 highway I get 27 on 75% rural highway, 25% city/town.
Equipment (all standard on the GT except the mirror): 18-inch alloy wheels, limited-slip differential, automatic climate control, a 6-disc Bose stereo with an auxiliary audio jack, Xenon HID headlights, LED taillights, rain-sensing wipers, leather seat bolsters, a trip computer, anti-theft system, auto-dimming rearview mirror with compass.

Review: This thing is fast as shit but doesn’t attract a lot of attention. First and second gear have limited power to control wheelspin and torque steer, but hit third and you’re GONE. If you dog it all the time you’ll get 20MPG or so, but drive it a little easier and you can get 27MPG+. Looks great inside and out. Great supportive seats with leather bolsters, which I prefer because 100% leather seats always get worn. Passing on 2-lane roads is effortless. Slip down into 5th or 4th and you’re off like a rocket. A lot of people don’t like hatchbacks, but I like the cargo space and flexibility. I can fit my mountain bike in the back. Love the HID headlights and rain-sensing wipers.