You hire when there is demand for your product. Merely cutting business taxes will generate greater profits. But who will hire when the demand is not there and you are keeping up with todays demand. That argument is old , stale and wrong.
You remind me of why I dislike the Republican mantras. They make no sense at all, but if you do not analyze, merely agree without thinking, it makes some perverted sense. Sheer sophistry. You will not hire regardless of how much taxes are cut. It just increases profits for those on top. We have had enough of that.
So, you’re saying you became a Republican because you don’t understand how economics and taxation work?
Because you weren’t going to do it for his benefit anyway? Presumably you were in business to make money. If you were going to make money by hiring these people, and then changed your mind in a fit of pique at the president, then you’re presumably a pretty shitty businessman. Probably owned the Texas Rangers at some point, really.
Usually. That or a love of Jeebus, hatred of brown people, or a terror of commies.
-Joe
So, your position really is that there were lots of business owners planning on hiring unnecessary employees before the presidents speech on Wednesday?
Because if I were a CEO, I’d hire the persons my company needs to survive and prosper, and no more than that. Screw what the president’s doing wrt taxes.
IMO, if he gets in it’s his nomination to lose. Nobody in the current crop excites GOP voters, I bet Perry would remedy that.
So how long can he not declare he’s running, before we should conclude that he’s not running?
But if Perry is trailing Obama in Texas, how can he stand a chance?
Id rather have Bush and Reagan’s economies than Obama’s and Carters…
No, I became a Republican because we had Jimmy Carter, who basically let any third world craphead urinate on our flag.
there was a Joke my Drill Sergeant told in 1981.
Jimmy Carter gets to Heaven and meets JFK. JFK asks about what went on during Carter’s presidency.
Carter - “Well, the Iranians overthrew the Shah and held our embassy staff hostage.”
JFK- “And you sent in the Marines, right?”
Carter - “Well, uh, no. They were still hostages when I left. And then the Russians invaded Afghanistan.”
JFK -“And you sent in the Marines, right?”
Carter -“Well, uh, no.”
JFK -“Damn, Jimmy, next you’ll tell me you gave away the Panama Canal!”
NOw, what has bothered me about Republicans is that deep down, they are there to do the dirty work of the wealthy, and stay in office by pandering to the religious nutbags. Being neither wealthy nor religious, I was never comfortable with that.
But I’ve also lived long enough to watch Democrats stab our troops in the back three times in time of war. I remember Luis Guiteriez bringing his little motley group of protestors in front of my national guard armory in 1990. And they made that fool a Congressman, actually carved out a special district so he could win.
Today, I look at elections like south park said. It’s usually a choice between a douche and a turd, and that’s how you have to vote.
I’ll vote for Obama if his opponent is Romney, Palin or Huntsman. I’ll vote for Perry if he gets the nod, because Perry at least has a record of economic growth compared to Obama’s record…
Bachmann, I’m on the fence on. She’s nuts, but she might get the job done. It will entirely depend on what the economy looks like a year from now.
What I’ve had enough of is 3 years of 9% unemployment. I think so has everyone else.
When your guy gets unemployment to where it was when he took office, MAYBE he’ll have argument.
Because if you hire people, you’ll have less cash to be taxed? Unless your profits go up (presumably the reason you’re considering hiring), in which case it’s a win-win?
One more time.
Unemployment under Obama has been 9.4% on average, compared to 5.2% average for Bush-43.
So really, I’ll take your advice on the employment things when your guy actually accomplishes something on that front.
To Paraphrase Ronald Reagan.
It’s a recession when your neighbor loses his job.
It’s a depression when you lose your job.
It’s recovery when Obama loses his job.
NOw here’s the thing, Rick Perry has one of only three states where the employment level is back to where it was before the Recession started.
Is there any possibility you could just start a thread called “Obama is doomed if the economy still sucks in 2012” and stop derailing every “Will X run?” thread in Elections? i’d rather hear people discussing the merits (if any) and weaknesses of the potential candidate rather than the same tiresome rehashing of the same argument.
This is getting tiresome.
I will as soon as you guys stop saying that “Republicans don’t know nuttin’ about economics.”
Or trying to blame all our problems on the guy who retired 3 years ago…
Incidently, I’ve talked about Perry and what I think his merits and flaws are pretty extensively in this thread, and no one really responds to that…
You can’t blame me for responding to what people are actually talking about.
Here’s an interesting article…written by a leftie, who gets snarky but you can tell he’s secretly soiling his undies.
For the last few weeks, I’ve been unable to get a startling statistic out of my head: Since the recession officially ended, Texas has created more than 4 of every 10 new jobs in America.
That’s right, Texas: the reddest of red states, home to gun lovers and school textbooks that openly question whether the Founding Fathers intended for the separation of church and state. I am no ideologue. Still, whenever I get political, I tend to tilt reflexively to the left, making the jobs figure a bit disconcerting at first.
But there’s no escaping it. The number is real. Which means that if you care about putting people back to work at a time when nearly 14 million in this country are unemployed, maybe Texas has something to teach us.
Unfortunately, that’s not the posture many commentators have taken. Instead, when the data from Texas emerged — touted first by Richard Fisher, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas — conservatives were quick to celebrate, embracing the jobs tally as powerful evidence of the superiority of Republican ideas as well as proof that Texas Gov. Rick Perry would make a good president. But that’s overly simplistic.
How many new jobs in Texas pay more than 40,000 a year?
Why does that matter. For that matter, how far does 40K a year get you? I know the tax burden isn’t as high, so it probably gets you further than it does in IL.
LOL.
Sorry, I mistook you for a serious debater…
Further than most of those new jobs in Texas.
You know what, I’m making just a little over 40K in IL, where they just increased our state income tax 66% so Gov. Quinn (whom I voted for because Brady was so reactionary) to pay off his union buddies.
It’s substantially less than what I was making during most of the Bush years. In fact, I’d have to go back to 2002 to find where I did less well. So, yeah, I’m making less under Quinn/Obama and I’m paying more in taxes to boot.
Those people have jobs, and probably most of them don’t have that much experience or background. Perry is creating jobs. That’s something. It’s more than a lot of other people are getting accomplished.