You’re moving the goal posts and setting yourself up as the judge of what constitutes “enough.” He mocks Obama plenty. It was factually wrong for you to say that Stewart “doesn’t call out Obama’s BS.”
When you said, “Stewart is grasping at straws,” what were you referring to? What specific claim or statement by Jon Stewart amounts to “grasping at straws,” in your opinion, and they are grasping at straws in what regard? In defense of what?
Ah, well then. I just looked at the article.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the firing of Jonathan Klein has more to do with Sanchez’s axing than this Jon Stewart thing does. But it looks like sped up the process and kicked himself out the door. Good job there.
Right you are. I’ve probably done that before. I’m not sure which of them I should apologize to. 
Are you talking about that old New York Jewish accent he does, which is really a Jackie Mason imitation? Or are you talking about the dumb guy Jersey accent he does sometimes? Regardless, you’re making some unsupported assertions about his intent the same way smiling bandit is.
This actually does get into an interesting area because Stewart does make a lot of jokes about being Jewish, and I think he does it more than most other comedians these days. It’s traditional Jewish humor. Jews have been making jokes about that for ages. It’s not a “we’re cool because we’re different” thing. Usually it’s a reflection of the fact that Jews are outsiders to some extent even if they are integrated in a society and very successful in it.
That he doesn’t have to make a choice between doing comedy about the media and politics, and being a “political commentator” (lindsaybluth’s words) or “about as much news as anything” (yours).
I don’t think Stewart pretends to be more fair than he is, and he’s upfront about coming at things from a liberal point of view. They are sometimes not fair to their targets, I agree, although it’s usually minor stuff like stupid-sounding quotes that bring about this treatment.
Still waiting on that evidence!
He pointed out that Stewart is also part of a minority group, which does not mean he’s pure or could not be prejudiced (ludicrous strawmen nobody has proposed, by the way), but does mean he also might have experience with discrimination. That’s the context. Sanchez laughed it off.
[QUOTE=smiling bandit;12979382I’d rather be governed by almost anyone other than someone from Stewart’s class, who tend to be very well educated and know not a damn thing about the world.[/QUOTE]
Tell us more about this bigot while you continue to make uninformed generalizations about him based on what you’ve assumed is his background. 
This is not a class thing. Rick Sanchez was born in Cuba, his parents came to the U.S. when he was a year or two old, and after going to college he worked his way through various small news outlets to get a job as an anchor/tasering dummy on CNN. Stewart was born in New Jersey, grew up in a single parent household, went to college, worked his way up through comedy clubs and got the Daily Show. One’s Latino and one’s Jewish but I see more similarities than differences there. Neither of these people appear to be children of privilege. And regardless, this is not a class issue. The Daily Show did not treat Rick Sanchez any different than it has treated many, many other anchors, reporters, and talk show hosts over the years. It’s Sanchez’s intellectual failing that he can only see that as discrimination against him based on ethnicity or class.
Is Jon Stewart being a “grossly unfair bigot” because he mocks those who defend “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell”?
Without some specific examples, these complaints ring pretty hollow.
You’re kidding me with this, right? This is some sort of whoosh?
Here’s a much better (and longer) clip of the “Stewart” link in the OP:
I’ll bet Stewart invites Sanchez to his show. He might just come on so he can plug his hysterically titled book, Conventional Idiocy. LOL!
BTW, if Stewart wanted to really smear Sanchez, he could have mentioned that he once committed a DUI hit and run that paralyzed a man who died 5 years later in a nursing home, and he only got a relative slap on the wrist for it. (Yeah, he used to be an anchor on my local sensationalist “if it bleeds it leads” news channel, and was widely despised even before then.)
I am sorry but on both points you have no idea what you are talking about. The Daily show mocks liberals nearly as much as it mocks conservatives and it has often (this week even) made fun of Obama. I admit, this rally he is planning may possibly make him cross a line he didn’t intend to (There was an interesting article about it in Entertainment Weekly this week that was very thought provoking) but I think most of what you write above is off base.
Regarding antisemitism, as I alluded to in my companion pit thread here, both my family and I have personally experienced antisemitism in the '70s, '80s and '90s so, as I said, you don’t know what you are talking about.
We’re talking about the Daily Show here. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. The show that slams the Obama administration and Democrats daily. Repubs more but, they provide much more entertainment. Recently, Stewart has really been making fun of Obama himself. On the Daily Show.
And your comments on Jews. I don’t know what to say.
I forgot to say what I originally came in to say. Anyone notice that Jon seems particularly contemptuous of Sanchez. More than some of the other pundits. Maybe Sanchez’s antisemitism is well-known?
My feeling is that it’s just that Sanchez has a lot of air time, and does some weird things that are easy to comment on. In fact I don’t think the clips are particularly harsh. Except for “twit a twat” or what it was, and that was an inescapable pun, which he actually apologised for.
I have learned here that suggesting (or asking if it is true) that Jews run the media is a type of hate speech, akin to suggesting that black people like fried chicken and are good dancers.
I’m not joking, that was the analogy.
People feel strongly about this topic.
Dude, you know Jon Stewart? Can you hook me up?
Rick Sanchez wasn’t fired for “taking on” Jon Stewart.
I’m 99.99% sure that Sanchez could have said, “Stewart is a smug asshole” or “Stewart is a cowardly bullshit artist who acts like Edward R. Murrow one minute then tries to pretend he’s just a comedian the next,” and he wouldn’t have been fired for that. SOME people would have applauded him, some would have condemned him, Stewart would have responded in kind, and then this would all have blown over.
But Sanchez didn’t do that. He had to bring up Judaism! In the process, he insulted millions of Jews, including the one who runs his network!
EVen those of us who think Stewart is a douchebag know that Sanchez got what he deserved. He was probably on thin ice already, and insulting an employer who’s already shown you some mercy is stupid. Sanchez was BEGGING to be fired.
Funny, i am always impressed about how often he does read the books. You are watching through a right wing filter.
And that, my friends, is the biggest fucking irony of all. Sanchez’s protector and champion, the aforementioned Mr. Klien … is Jewish.
Stewart does not Fox his guests, that is yell over them and cut them off. If they have a salient point going on, they continue with the discussion and post it on line.
Aren’t we all making assertions about his intent? And I was talking about his first accent. The regular NJ guy one is decent. I love traditional Jewish humor, but when my friends’ banter is funnier than a guy who makes $1million/appearance, there’s a problem.
How can you compare an immigrant’s family with zero or limited English whose family worked menial jobs to eat with a guy whose professor dad left at 12? We have no idea if his mother got child support, either, so Stewart was pretty much middle-class. On the surface they did not have similar lifestyles at all. I’m no fan of Sanchez’s, but the defenses coming forth for Stewart are absurd.
Oh, wait do you mean the thread in which people post the following in the first few handful of replies? Also, 30 years ago is the 80’s, not the 70’s.
I am clearly alone in my beliefs. Thanks for pointing that out, Quimby.
I saw this late last night. The title of the thread should be “Rick Sanchez gets canned after his sponsor and protector on CNN gets canned”
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My stupid right wing filter, always pressing the button to vote for Obama! :rolleyes:
I don’t know. Have you ever seen him go after Megyn Kelly or the Fox and Friends crew? It’s brutal. As far as I can recall, he’s only gone after Rick Sanchez a handful of times, and none of those instances seemed especially rough, at least compared to some of the other mocking Stewart regularly dishes out.
I just wish he’d take down Nancy Grace while he’s on his purge.
I tend to see this the way Bosstone described it. “Dirty” Sanchez is just being a whiny little bitch.