Ridiculous M*A*S*H hypocrisy

They were pretty brutal to (and had zero respect for) Major Frank Burns, too. They weren’t too sweet to Winchester at first, either, although once Winchester got the stick out of his ass, they got along better.

As noted upthread, Archie was supposed to make you cringe, that was the point. The show wasn’t saying that Archie was right, but that he was very much a product of his times, and you know, people are complicated. They had Mike to serve as Archie’s foil:

Nope. Same episode. Steele (“with a terminal e”) was a once-off.

I hear the 8063rd didn’t even get a water slide. Poor bastards.

-Joe

Winchester never really got the stick out of his ass as I recall. But he was an excellent surgeon which Frank Burns wasn’t, and was a decent human being if a somewhat arrogant one.

There was an episode when Potter cracked open a bottle of something (sherry? Burgundy?) that he and his mates found somewhere in France, during Double-ya Double-ya One. He was the last living survivor of that squad, and asked BJ and Hawkeye to join him in a toast to their memory.

Bewitched had a LOT of drinking. “Make that a double” was heard in every other show. Darrin was shown drunk quite a few times as well.

Evidently witches can drink without any effect, as I don’t recall ever seeing Samantha or any other witch/warlock drunk.

Mr Whipple (or rather the guy who played him) showed up in various roles always as the drunk guy, who hears Darrin call his wife a witch, and then tops him on how his wife is a BIGGER witch.

Another drunk-Potter memory: they were drunk while being shelled. (Maybe just a few of them traveled to help out another unit?) Potter said something like, “why are they bombing us when we’re already bombed?”
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Brandy, IIRC.

And also Klinger, Margaret, Winchester and Father M. Only time I remember the father taking a drink.

I guess they just cut that scene from the reruns then.

Mulcahy drank in a few episodes. The best was when he had a drink just before giving a sermon on the evils of drink. He asked Radar to open a stained glass window.

nevermind, scooped.

I recall him drinking in that case, not drunk.

Again, I’m not claiming he never drank to the point of intoxiciation; I’m just saying I cannot recall a particular instance and would not be surprised if it never happened.

You don’t remember a scene was so drunk that he fell down, and when he got back up he asked if he just fell down? And when told he didn’t, said “I didn’t think so.”?

Potter and Hawkeye help out an aid unit. On the way back, Potter wonders if Zoltan (Klinger) packed anything for the trip. He finds a bottle, blesses Klinger’s heart, and he and Hawk get blasted while bombing down a dirt road. They come under sniper fire and decamp to a ditch. Potter returns fire, then orders Hawkeye to do the same. Hawk replies that he will heal their wounds, bind their wounds, but he will not cause their wounds. Potter makes it a direct order, then says please. Hawk empties the .45 into the air. The sniping stops, and they discover that a passing US patrol has run the North Koreans off. They stagger out of the ditch and join the patrol. The End.

I did that from memory. I need a drink.

+1.

I read a lot. A LOT. And I read not just current novels, but novels that were written in other eras. I enjoy the Nero Wolfe, stories, for instance, and Golden Age science fiction stories. Men were not just allowed to smoke and drink and tomcat around, they were pretty much expected to. Women were shown smoking and drinking, and although these were considered vices for women, they were generally just accepted as something that most women did, like spend too much on hats. Sometimes it was hinted that women had sex outside the marriage bed, and this was frowned upon for the most part. Some authors treated casual sex as just another thing that adults sometimes did. But the majority of authors strongly implied that there were good women, and then there were tramps. Loose women were a lot of fun, but a man would NEVER want to take one home to meet his mother. And his mother probably knew that her darling boy was screwing around with every loose woman that he found…but she didn’t acknowledge it. When teenage boys left to go out for the night, Mom would say “Be good”, and then Dad would walk out the front door with Sonny Boy, and say “If you can’t be good, be careful” and hand over a condom. Now, not all parents were like this…but the prevailing thought was boys will be boys, but girls had damn well better be ladies.

It was a tontine, wasn’t it?: Tontine - Wikipedia

That 70s Show had implied marijuana use in almost every episode and rarely showed negative consequences.

Wasn’t there a flashback episode where we see that Kelso was a straight A student and all around bright guy until he started smoking pot? Or am I thinking of Taxi & Reverend Jim?

Taxi, I think. I don’t recall Kelso ever being anything but a pretty boy goof.

“… but know this: You can cut me off from the civilized world. You can incarcerate me with two moronic cellmates. You can torture me with your thrice-daily swill. But you cannot break the spirit of a Winchester. My voice shall be heard from this wilderness, and I shall be delivered from this fetid and festering sewer.”

And then he found the rubber chicken in his teapot. :smiley: