Until he answers that - we don’t know - but clearly the bells were not so loud to him, or he would have confiscated it or alerted someome else, or any other number of possible outcomes.
If Ahmed had intended to use it as a “hoax bomb” - he would have been pretty stupid to show it to another adult that would be able to quickly identify the hoaxer.
Or he might have done exactly what he did, because he liked Ahmed, didn’t want to escalate it, but thought he could just handle it quietly by cautioning Ahmed to put it away and not take it out again until he went home.
My theory is that he and his publicity-hound dad *wanted *him to be identified. You can’t gin up publicity and get reporters on your lawn chowing on Domino’s Pizza if you’re anonymous.
The voices in your head must be loud these days…
Is this the first time you have ever seen a briefcase or briefcase-like box containing a prominent LCD displaying a time? Was the first time you saw such a device a bomb in a movie or TV show? Is this the first time you have seen such a device which wasn’t a bomb in a movie or TV show?
I’ve never seen an actual bomb that had a large digital display.
If he had liked ahmed, and feared any of the other possible outcomes (or the one that specifically happened) - he would have kept it to help prevent them.
It’s much more likely that he said “not to show it” as to prevent any distractions (good or bad) from it - other teachers are english, not science, etc - similar to anytime someone might have brought something from home “to show” that was “kinda cool”.
well, your theory has more holes in it than an undead zombie - and doesn’t fit with any of the available data.
I have sincere doubts that any person in this country, Muslim or otherwise, would want to be labeled as a “potential terrorist” just for “attention”.
I’ve never seen an actual bomb, period,. Which I suspect is true for the vast majority of people.
I’ve seen many.
And, as has been stated many times in this and other threads, the essential part of a bomb is the explosive. Without that it’s just a timer, or a fuse.
So, even people who get all their education from TV fiction should recognize that what he had was just a clock - and, in fact, everyone did.
Now, if you want to say that a clock is a hoax bomb, I’m OK with that, as long as this standard is well-advertised, and includes all other potential bomb detonation devices, such as cell phones and cigarettes.
You’re missing the point. You have seen cell phones and cigarettes which were not detonators - many times, I imagine. A hoax or bomb scare is about perception, which means that a real detonator that is not perceived as being a detonator (because a person looking at a cell phone thinks it is a cell phone) is not going to cause the same reaction as a not-bomb that is perceived as being a bomb (because it conforms to the stereotype created by film and TV of what a bomb looks like).
I don’t think President Obama is particularly known for acting with due deliberation or is careful not to rush to judgment.
About a year ago there was a case where a violent criminal robbed a deli, and then assaulted a police officer, who (acting in defense of himself and the community he was sworn to protect), shot the criminal in question.
President Obama immediately (way before all the facts became known and before the Grand Jury found the officer completely justified in his actions) called the family of…the criminal and offered his condolences.
I kid you not. Let me repeat that: POTUS called a family of a dead robber and violent thug and offered his condolences.
Now, after the Grand Jury findings, President Obama finally did decide to act with due deliberation and without the rush to judgement, when it came to calling the police officer and apologizing. The due deliberation apparently continues to this day…
And, we’ve all seen clocks which were just clocks.
So, I’m not missing the point.
The point is - anything could be a bomb!
If all we are worried about is keeping morons happy, than schools need to ban everything - the kids need to come to class shoeless and sans backpacks. Otherwise, these sort of things will happen over and over.
You would think something like that would make the news.
Not among reactionary right-wing morons, he’s not.
It did. Here is the President of the United States offering “his deepest condolences” to the family of the robber in question and asking to remember the criminal through “reflection and understanding”.
Cosigned.
One of my nephews went to a school which banned backpacks. The boy started carrying a purse.
I’m just thankful it was just a brown boy who was the victim here. Can you imagine the lefts reaction if this was a 14 year old black lesbian muslim?
Riots across the country, Obama issuing apologies from Golf Cart One, MSNBC blaming Bush, 3 Lifetime movies in the pipeline and she would have the democratic presidential nomination locked up.
Seriously though, his Dad deserves an honorary editors position at The Onion.com for this gem of a troll…
You are a special kind of dumb, ain’tcha?
First, the kid’s first explanation of the device as a clock was not in response to questioning, or an attempt to “get out of trouble.” He took the device to show to his science teacher (presumably, that’s what you do when you complete an interesting science project), he told the science teacher that it was a clock, and the science teacher confirmed that it was, in fact a clock. So, a qualified member of the school faculty knew that it was not a bomb, independent of the kid’s explanation.
And your ideas about reading and enforcing the rules are asinine. Based on your interpretation, basically any device that emits a sound at any time, and that looks even vaguely like a bunch of electronic circuitry, no matter how closely related to an actual bomb, can be defined under the rule as a “fake bomb.” It’s the perfect syllogism: anything that i say is a fake bomb is, by definition, a fake bomb, whether or not it is a bomb, and whether or not i have confirmation that it is in fact a clock.
I expected some of the ridiculous interpretations of this incident from some of the other people on this board, but i thought that you would advocate for some actual common sense in how to evaluate a situation like this.
I wonder if you and John are talking past each other a little bit. Neither of you appears to think AFAICS that the clock could reasonably be interpreted as a bomb by the school administration. However, the clock could reasonably be seen as an attempt at a “look alike” as prohibited by the student code of conduct. So some sort of evaluation of that question was not unreasonable.
I agree with mhendo that a reasonable evaluation was pretty obviously performed on the spot by the first teacher, and the affair should have ended right there. Unfortunately, once the disruption in the English class occurred, I don’t think it was out of line for that teacher to refer the issue to the principal.
I honestly don’t know which parts of that either of you actually disagree with.