Ah, assumption.
There’s a saying for that, isn’t there???
Never mind, that was a totally sick burn bro…
No really…
Look, I laughed at one of your jokes. Then you told the same one like 9 times in a row. Bad form.
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Forget about rebuilding a digital clock - this canned mayhem shithead can’t even troll a message board well. He gives himself a name that says “I am a troll” and then is so impulsive he can’t stop from posting mentally challenged shit repeatdly. Try some ritalin, dumbass.
I truly adore the “herp derp irony derp!” trolls. So full of childlike glee, like a kid in the bathtub discovering his own pee-pee for the first time.
I looked at the fucking picture. It looks like a briefcase to me. I’ve heard it called a “pencil case”, which to me is just a small briefcase.
And a lake is just a small ocean and a dandelion is just a small tree.
We could probably cut our vocabularies by 50% if we tried!
This is a small briefcase. What the kid used isn’t even that large.
There is a middle ground here between letting students make bomb threats and arresting clock refurbishers.
Assuming she realized that the clock was not actually a real bomb, there are two possibilities
- The student is as he says simply a tinkerer
- The student intended to make a bomb threat but you caught him before hand.
Although the second option is a real possibility there is no evidence that the first one isn’t true, but the second one is also a real possibility you must protect against it.
Solution: confiscate the Hoax bomb tell the student (he can pick it up after the school day) and tell him you will contact his parents to let them know that you are not to bring his electronic projects to school again or there will be consequences. Then if you really want to push the point home, give him detention for disrupting class when his alarm went off.
If she had followed this advice, she would not have been blamed. Even in the worst case scenario that the student was actually a hoaxer, the student would have been prevented from carrying out his hoax plan, and would be unlikely to try again given that he knew you were on to him, and so the crisis would have been averted and you can go back to conjugating verbs.
Oh for fuck sake. Call it a “a case” if you want. It makes not a whit difference.
The kid fucked up by bringing it to school and not listening to what his Engineering teacher told him.
The Engineering teacher fucked up by not keeping the device with him.
The English teacher fucked up by over reacting (but let’s not forget that she’s subject to “zero tolerance” bullshit, so I can kind of sympathize).
The police fucked up by cuffing the kid and treating him like a dangerous criminal.
No one acted intelligently here
The kid did listen to what his Engineering teacher told him.
And there was nothing wrong with bringing his entirely harmless project to school.
If something cannot fit a standard sheet of paper, it isn’t reasonable to call it a briefcase.
Repeatedly calling it a briefcase despite this indicates a desire to invoke images of a briefcase bomb and to convey a greater degree of danger.
The kid fucked up by not turning off the clock’s alarm after the Engineering teacher recommended he not show to anyone else. But when the English teacher ordered him to take the device out of his pack, are you suggesting he should have said “No”?
Also, the principal fucked up by letting the police question the kid before his parents got there.
Also, when I was purchasing school supplies earlier this year, there was a large display in Office Depot, one side of which was pencil cases. I saw a bunch of cases just like that one.
I hope you reported Office Depot to the proper authorities.
This isn’t some “Oh, everyone made mistakes” bullshit situation where you handwave away people’s major errors by pretending each “mistake” is equivalent. The kid was arrested for bringing a clock to school. There was a whole pile of fuck ups involved in that and none of it falls on the kid.
The only one with an excuse is the kid. We don’t *expect *14 year old kids to make smart choices. The teachers and school administrators and police are supposed to make smart choices on their behalf.
She can confiscate it for going off in class. But that’s it. Those other things you mentioned would have caused a problem, even though the media storm would have been much smaller.
You see, possibility 2 is not a crime nor even against the rules. You can’t punish someone because you suspect they are going to break the rules in the future. You have to catch them in the act, or prove that they had planned said act.
I’m sure other students bring in electronic items all the time. I’m sure cell phones have went off in class. The only relevant rule is the one that would cover that. Anything beyond following the rules would cause people to start assuming reasons that the Muslim kid was treated differently.
And if you claim it’s different because this looks like a bomb, well–see my next post.
Oh, for fuck’s sake. I had to say this on Reddit, but I thought the Dope would be better than this. Maybe our more intelligent Dopers haven’t said it because they think it’s obvious, but it clearly isn’t.
REAL BOMBS DON’T HAVE VISIBLE CLOCKS ON THEM! There is no reason for them to. It’s an extra component that costs more, and it serves to alert the person that there is a timer on it. You might hook up a display to set it up, but then you don’t need one anymore.
It’s amazing that, even in their stupidity, these people at the school are smarter than some Dopers about this. WE KNOW THEY KNEW IT WASN’T A BOMB. No one is stupid enough to keep something they think may blow up in their face in a place where it can hurt them.Any argument that the people involved thought it was a real bomb is a complete non-starter.
And can you stop fucking assuming that Muslim political activist father means terrorist, please? Yes, the guy is anti-anti-Muslim. Yes, he’s run for president in a Muslim country. Why the fuck would you jump from there to “taught his kid to be a terrorist”?!
The kid modified a clock (even if only its case) and brought it to school. There is no evidence of bad intent. And we all seem to agree the school was being stupid. So what else is there to discuss?
As for how much he modified the clock–that matters only in that we know he’s less of a tech genius than he first seemed. It has not reflection on his intent. I understand why those who are predisposed to think the kid must be a terrorist are looking for anything to discredit him, but I don’t get why anyone else is jumping on this bandwagon.
Don’t forget, he only claimed he took a clock and modified it. He did not claim he built it from parts or anything.
Who on earth is this directed at?