Rock Concert at the Palace of Auburn Hills: Any advice?

I haven’t been to a rock concert at that large of a venue for a quarter century, but I’m going to see Rise Against opening for Foo Fighters tomorrow night, at the Palace. I’m taking my kids, 12, 14, and 16.

What should I know? Do they tend to be hot? Cold? Cold early then hot later?

What about smoking? There weren’t the no smoking laws way back then. Will people smoke anyway, maybe on the main floor?

I’ll be in seats, upper level. Will people be standing the entire time?

Doors open at 6:00, show starts at 7:00. Should I get there at 6:00? Will there be a line already then?

There’s actually a third band, Mariachi el Bronx, so presumably they start at 7:00. When would Rise Against start? When would the Foo Fighters start? When would it end?

Anything else I should know?

There won’t be any smoking inside, as far as I know. You might be happy if you had a pair of binoculars, if you have old eyes like me. I think the sound quality is pretty good there. Definitely better than the Silverdome, eek.

Bring earplugs. Trust me. Foo Fighters are loud… Really loud.

No matter how much you like loud music, you won’t be prepared for how loud FF are. I’m a young-ish guy and go to a lot of rock shows, and I couldn’t handle the decibel level (especially in an arena with the sound bouncing everywhere.)

I’ve been to the Palace a few times. They usually block off an area for “mosh pitting”, at least they did with the Foo Fighters a few times. No idea if they still do. I would not let my kids go down there. It’s a lot of groping, honestly.

And, yes, it’s quite loud.

Yeah, was planning on some kid of ear plugs, maybe just Kleenex. I hadn’t thought about bringing binoculars, but I think I will.

I saw EJ and BJ there, I am not a fan of arena concerts. SOund was awesome, big screens bring the action up close but the seats are atrocious. Cramped, no room ffor your knees and the heights are a bit disconcerting, seems like you’re on the edge of a canyon. I felt all clumsy and fumbly especially when traversing the upper bowl in the dark.

Get there early.

Mariachi El Bronx are fantastic - flashing suit lights Lordy Lordy.

No smoking anywhere inside. Last time I was there was for Bob Seger a couple of months ago, my friend and I got there halfway through the warm-up band and we got to our seats pretty efficiently. That was, of course, an older and more sedate crowd…we sat through most of the concert although people do tend to stand up for the big numbers.

Longest line I stood in was for something to drink, about 20 minutes for a $4.00 bottle of water.

I ditto the binoculars. Not every show has the big screens for stage close-ups.

I’m going next in December to see the Trans-Siberian Orchestra. :slight_smile:

Stop off at a drugstore and get a box of those spongy ear plugs. Make your children wear them.

I’ve been going to shows since I was 14 years old. I have about 60% hearing loss in both ears because I never wore ear plugs until I was about 35.

True story:

I went to Lollapallooza last year in Chicago. I was walking through the kiddy stage area while some kiddy band was playing. I spot this toddler in her stroller, eyes clamped shut, fingers in her hears. She looked like she was in pain. I stopped and dug my stash of clean, new earplugs out of my pocket and handed two of them to the dad (standing right next to her). I asked if he wanted them for his daughter. He looked at me, blinked, and then looked down at his kid, finger still in her ears. “Are your ears hurting you baby?” “Yes, Daddy.” He took the earplugs from me and thanked me. “How did you know?” I said, “Well, she looked like she was in pain and she had her fingers stuck in her ears. I don’t want her to be as deaf as I am when she gets to be my age.”

Hearing damage is cumulative. There’s no getting it back. Protect yourselves, please. Trust me, you will still be able to hear every word.

And yeah, don’t let the kids anywhere near the stage on the floor during the main acts. Okay, maybe the 16 year-old, if it’s a boy and he’s a fighter, but otherwise… no. Too young for moshing (do kids even still do that?).

As for the timetable, the one thing I’ve learned about concerts is: the show is never on time. Never. There will be a line already at 6:00. But it doesn’t matter. Because you all have assigned seats. If the show “starts” at 7:00, it’ll be more like 7:30. Figure about 45 minutes in between acts to tear down and set up equipment. The opening acts will play about 30-45 minutes, depending on how much material they have. Unless it’s really important for you to see the first band, I’d probably make it my mission just to catch Rise Against and FF. If you showed up by 8:00, you’d be good to go.

I’ll guess your evening will look a bit like this:

6:00 doors open. Hipsters congregate.
7:20 Mariachi el Bronx plays. Until about 7:50
7:50-8:30 Tear down Mariachi el Bronx set, Set up Rise Against set
8:30 Rise Against. Give or take about ten minutes on that one. They will play a little longer, being more well known and having more material to pull from. I’ll guess 45-60 minutes.
9:20-9:50 Give or take. Tear down Rise Against set, Set up Foo Fighters set.
10:00 Foo Fighters will go on. I haven’t seen 'em but I’ll guess you’ll get a good 90-minute show, maybe 2 hours. You should be outta there by 11, 11:30.

Know this: You will walk a couple miles to and from wherever you park. Figure this into your timetable. It could take 20-30 minutes from the point where you turn into the arena to the point where you actually get a space. Then another 20-30 minutes to walk. The later you arrive, the sooner you get outta there at the end. When do you want your wait to be: A long walk going in, but zoom right out afterwards? Or a short walk going in, but sit in the car for 45 minutes waiting for the parking lot to clear enough so you can get out?

Also, however you listen to music in the car (CD, MP3, whatever), bring with you at least the two most recent albums for each band playing. You can get all geared up beforehand and, if you’re still wanting more (and FF will probably leave you wanting more), you’ll have something to listen to in the parking lot for the post-concert traffic jam.

When I’ve gone to The Palace it was only 1/4 to 1/3 of the facility, so it wasn’t even nearly as huge as for a Pistons game. No need to mention the no smoking again. And although I’ve never done it, maybe renting a limo would be fun. Makes parking a lot easier, and after paying for the four of you, what’s another couple hundred bucks?

thanks everyone, especially Dogzilla. Good info.

When I first looked up Mariachi el Bronx, I just skimmed and it said they were an LA punk band, but reading more carefully, they use that name when they’re playing mariachi music, and go by the Bronx when they’re playing punk. I don’t like mariachi music. I’m going to hope the venue just grabbed the wrong name.

Regarding smoking, like I said it’s been a quarter century, and a non-smoking concert venue would have been unfathomable back then.

ZenBeam, once upon a time, in a land far, far away, I went to see a local band in Miami play at this tiny little hole in the wall venue. IIRC, the band was called “Puya” and was a hybrid of punk & mariachi.

It was completely amazing.

I am usually a bigger fan of the little known opening acts than of the main headliner. Sitting through those acts has turned me on to a lot of music I wouldn’t have found otherwise, such as The Rev. Horton Heat, Death From Above 1979, and Autolux. If you get to the venue on time, I suggest keeping an open mind and sit through at least three songs by the opening act. You might like it after all. If not, then go get some snacks with the kids and let 'em shop for t-shirts.

BTW, concert shirts start in the $20-30 range these days, with the decent-looking ones around $30-50. Just fair warning. Going to concerts is a lot like going to Disney these days. :slight_smile:

Use these: http://www.amazon.com/Hearos-High-Fidelity-Series-1-Pair/dp/B000V9PKZA

Much better vs. Kleenex or the sponge-y type of plug (which Hearo’s also makes and are much cheaper). These are better both for the protection they offer and the quality of sound they still let through…

My $.02

Those are awesome and if you were a professional concert goer, I would totally recommend investing in a pair. $15 isn’t bad at all. However, for a one-time gig, the sponge ear plugs are like $2 for a dozen at any drugstore.

If I was taking three kids to a show, there’s no way I’d invest $90 in spiffy fancy earplugs just for one show, when I can get 3 sets per person for $2. Now you don’t have to worry about a kid dropping his or hers on the sticky mosh pit floor.

P.S.

Where is Auburn Hills? Is that Michigan?

Am I the only one that knows it’s totally obvious that 42.3N -83.7W is near Ann Arbor, Michigan? :confused:

Oh, wait: lmgtfy :p:p

lol Balthisar. :slight_smile: