Zara is Anne’s daughter, I think.
I see. Thank you.
They didn’t marry 35 years ago because it was known that Camilla was “experienced,” but Charles was expected to have a virgin bride to give him an “Heir and a Spare”. It would have been nice if they had married all those years ago, but then we would never have known who Diana was, nor would we have William or Harry.
Out of deference to Diana, I don’t think Camilla should ever be called Princess of Wales.
One of the news reports I saw said that she’s chosen never to take that title, for that reason.
From what I’ve seen of the new Duchess of Cornwall, she seems like a classy and intelligent woman (far more so than either her new husband or her new husband’s late wife, IMO) – far too intelligent to ever bite off the chewy bite that calling herself the Princess of Wales would be. The Cult of Diana is still far too widespread for that to be a wise move.
I liked her hat, what I saw of it. I didn’t watch the TV coverage and have only seen one small photo in my newspaper. I like hats.
I thought she looked great. She looked very happy. She is nowhere near as unattractive as the media has portrayed, or rather, publicized, her. She looks just like an English countrywoman looks.
Too bad this couldn’t have been done all those years ago. On the other hand, if there were never a Diana, the royal family would probably still be in the dark ages about things like “you MUST marry a virgin!” and the idea that the monarch’s children should be raised by the hired help.
I thought her hats were wonderful. Those same hats used to be worn here in America until for some unknown reason, women stopped wearing them and started thinking there were “weird” when English women wore them.
That is the real tragedy - an 18 year old girl being selected because she was a virgin and good breeding stock. Shame on her family for encouraging her. And shame on the royal family for using her.
I am sick and tired of everyone calling her a horse and harping on how “ugly” she is. She’s a very presentable-looking middle-aged woman, dresses impeccably, seems comfortable with her age and body type–hell, she’s a damn sight better-looking than I am, so if she’s a horse, that must make most of us middle-aged woman elephants or hogs!
The British press are doing themselves no favors by lowering themselves to name-calling.
I have not seen enough of the hats yet!
I didn’t see the ceremony, alas, I was too tired on Friday night and went to bed early, forgetting all about it.
They really look happy in the pictures. Contrasting with Charles’ expression in the pictures of the Diana / Charles wedding.
I wish them the best of luck. Obviously, there is a bond between them that must be strong to have endured all these years.
Camilla is looking much smarter than she did in the 90s.
I’m glad I’m not a Royal. Well, except for the lifestyle, the money, seeing the world, and of course, the fabulous hats.
I would like to be a Royal for a month.
One more thing–Joan Rivers gets an invite to this wedding?
Joan Rivers?
That’s just surreal, idinit?
I bet she showed up with a blender under her arm.
Pissing off the Queen of England is one thing, but hey, you do not want to get on the wrong side of Joan Rivers. Not with those hats to make fun of . . .
I can understand them wanting to be fairly certain that whoever Charles married would be able to have children - to carry on the royal lineage and all - but wouldn’t it have made more sense then to NOT get a virgin? How about someone who’d already popped out a kid or two? Surely in all the world there was some well-bred horsey set widow of royal descent - husband shot down bravely in a war or something - who was closer to Charles’s age and personality. Although then they’d have to deal with, horror, stepchildren.
I would also hope Charles underwent fertility testing to make sure HE could have kids. I suppose the thought that it could be the man’s “fault” never occured to them.
They wanted a virgin so lurid accounts of ‘nights in the arms of the future Queen of England’ wouldn’t crop up from former boyfriends and embarrass them.
Boy, that sure worked, didn’t it?
I agree with everyone who says Camilla isn’t the ugly toad she is so often accused of being – I think she’s an attractive woman of her age and type. She has a nice figure, pretty coloring and a pleasant face.
And I was shocked to hear that Joan Rivers was invited – she used to have some pretty funny jokes (back when she was sometimes funny instead of always scary) about the Royals.
Yes, she definitely is.
For some reason British royal genealogy has always fascinated me. Tracing the intricate family lines of the royals is intriguing. The rules of inheritance, slanted towards male heirs of course, have in the past produced some interesting results.
For example, Queen Victoria was the grand-daughter of George III, he of our Revolutionary War fame. Georgie had a ton of kids, but not nearly as many grandchildren as on might expect. Well, legitimate grandchildren. His oldest son reigned as George IV, but his daughter died before he did, so the crown passed to his brother William, who also died without legitimate issue. Next in line would have been Edward, another brother, but he had already kicked the bucket, so his daughter Victoria became queen. She did still have male cousins, descendants of George III, but they came from yet younger uncles.
In the current royals Anne is the second child of Elizabeth II, but she is only eighth in line for the throne. First is Charles, then his two sons. Then would come Andrew, and his two daughters. After that would be Edward, who is so far childless. If Anne could manage to rub them all out undetected she would be next in line. She gets passed over because she’s female.
I heard that in the generation that will follow William and Harry that it will be birth order that determines one’s place in line for inheritance. If that applied now Anne would only have to rub out three, instead of seven, to be in line for the throne.
Speaking of geneology. We know that Charles and Camilla were messing around. And we know Diana had her share of side interests. So we know that both of the mothers involved could possibly have been impregnated by someone other than thier husband.
Has anyone done a paternity test? Is it possible that Camilla bore the real heir? Do we know Harry and William were really fathered by Charles?
I actually don’t know what kids Camilla has, other than apparently (from this thread) there is a daughter. And other than this thread, and various news sites, I haven’t bothered to look.
So do genetics really matter, or is it all just about how it appears?
No matter if Charles was really their father, Camilla could not have borne the heir to the British throne, as she was not married to Charles when she bore her children. Note I made mention of lack of* legitimate* children. William IV, who passed the throne on to his niece Victoria, had a passel of kids as I understand, he just wasn’t ever married to their mother(s).
Now if Camilla was still of childbearing age her subsequent children could be in line for the throne, but they would still be in line after William and Harry, and any heirs they will sire.
So in that ridiculous movie King Ralph, the guy John Goodman played would not have truly been an heir, because his grandmother was never married to the king. And how many “royals” were supposed to have died in that electrocution? About a hundred? Heck, they have the lineage traced out three or four times that, at the very least. Britain’s throne will never lack a legitimate heir. 
HRH the Earl of Wessex (Prince Edward) and his wife the Countess of Wessex (formerly Sophie Rhys-Jones) have a daughter, HRH Princess Louise of Wessex. She was born on 8 November 2003.
And she and Charles are just so much better suited to one another than Charles and Diana ever were. I mean, Diana was a silly young girl, but she deserved better than she got.
It’s also in keeping with the trend of more modest titles among the Royals. Prince Edward’s wife is the Countess of Wessex; I’m not sure if she can also be called Princess Edward or not. For that matter Prince Edward, IIRC, is using the title Earl of Wessex; Earl/Countess is several steps down from Prince/Princess.