Rubella completely eliminated in the Americas

Rubella is done for, at least on this half of the world.

I’m sure this great news is entirely due to juice cleanses and eliminating gluten.

I remember when everybody in my elementary school was given a rubella vaccination; I think it was in late 1969. It is also the only time I have been injected with anything from what I think is called a “vaccine gun” (it looked a little like a staple gun).

Blow an anti-vaxer’s mind and point out that rubella is a cause of autism. So the MMR vaccine helps prevent autism.

Well, this thread didn’t go quite the way I expected. But that’s OK. Alternative medicine[sup]1[/sup] people are frequently amusing in their righteous self-delusion.

[sub]1. Not medicine.[/sub]

Juice cleanses will work just fine now to keep you from getting rubella, at least in the Americas :wink:

Only when and until Madagascar opens it’s ports for international trade do we know the world is safe.

I caught rubella as an 11 year old, waaaay back in the day. Didn’t feel sick, ran a slight fever, was chafing at the bit to go back to school. On my first day back to school, I started bleeding from my gums, my ears, my eyes, under my fingernails, everywhere. I was rushed to the hospital. I can still remember the ambulance picking me up at school. My mom in the jump seat looking petrified.

They thought I had leukemia, which is those days was pretty much a death sentence for a kid. But thankfully, I had something a little less terminal - hemorrhagic perpera - a bleeding disease sometimes brought on by rubella. They removed my spleen - which was the only treatment they had in those days - and I spent weeks in the hospital and eventually it left my system and I recovered.

But I, for one, couldn’t be happier to see rubella eradicated.

Yes, rubella isn’t serious for most children or adults, but if a first-trimester fetus is infected, deafness, blindness and/or severe brain damage may be present in the newborn, or the fetus might be miscarried. Reason enough, I think, to take rubella seriously.

I had German measles as a kid and that was indeed part of the treatment my mother used but it was also long enough ago that we had a house call from the family doctor twice and baby aspirins was part of the treatment.

As to Steve Jobs, I am pretty sure he had pancreatic cancer which is one of the forms that is sadly still fairly unresponsive to treatment. I don’t think he was choosing juice and vitamins over a sound treatment in his case but I think it was a “Hail Mary” for a cancer that was pretty much untreatable. Even when caught early the vast majority of pancreatic cancer victims die within 5 years. Maybe I’m wrong on the details though of his thought process.

Steve Jobs did not have the common (and typically deadly) form of pancreatic cancer (ductal-type adenocarcinoma). He had a neuroendocrine cancer, which is potentially curable by surgery.

It is speculative to argue that Jobs’ trying alternative treatment for 9 months before getting surgery shortened his life. We can’t really say for sure.

Oh sorry, I should have checked. I lost a friend to pancreatic cancer almost exactly a year ago, and based my post on what I learned during his very short fight against it.

It is a real shame Jobs delayed treatment if he had a more curable form.

From this post on, let’s move the conventional medicine/alternative medicine debate to another thread.

If people want it, I can even move all of the related posts in here to start their own thread.

PLEASE take all debate out of this thread to its own thread (for those who may have made posts before they saw my above one).

ETA: Nevermind, I have moved the hijacking discussion out of this thread and to this (new) thread.
Please continue any debate about conventional and alternative medicine there.

Do kids even get aspirin anymore for these sorts of illnesses? I would be a bit worried about Reyes syndrome.

It would seem to be very rare, I think most Baby Aspirins are now in use by adults at risk for heart attacks as a regular daily dose.

My kids were recommended Tylenol or the like and not aspirin when needed. In my case, it was 1969 or maybe 1970 when I had Rubella. So a different time.