Russia has invaded Ukraine. How will the West respond?

No. Not at all. You have jumped to a mysterious conclusion to ask me that. My argument has been as you can read it, that Lavrov has a legitimate position on the first event in Kiev that led to the second event involving the separation of Crimea:

Here is that argument:

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My response to you is about the one-sided bias presented when postiing reports that purport to show only Russian self-interest in having or aquiring access to Ukraine’s fertile farmland as if the West and Western big agribusinesses have not self interests in establishing a profitable foothold there. Just pointing out bias.

That is false. Name one.

Weren’t you in favour of the Iraq invasion?

You are so easy.

You do not successfully fight a war by dying. You successfully fight a war by making your enemies die.

If Ukraine were to put up a fight, the only thing that would change is that Ukrainians would die in droves and they’d lose more than they already have. What you are suggesting isn’t self-defense, it’s suicide. There is no honor in suicide.

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.

As you say we have both made our case and I see no point in continuing either. However I would like to pick up your first, bold, point about my misspelling. I am Dyslexic, I reread my posts multiple times before submitting them as well as check for any errors with the spell checker. Unfortunately some things do slip through, mainly stuff that the spell checker cannot spot, like names or correctly spelt words that mean something else. Fortunately most people correctly deem that imperfect spelling is not a sign of unintelligence or a poorly thought out argument and let it slide. Others, who maybe feel they are not winning an argument, grasp at any errors and shout them out loud.

I thought I’d post this opinion piece from CNN here, since it’s again another interesting (to me) view point on an aspect that has been handwaved away by both those who support Russia’s viewpoint and those who just seem to want to bash Obama/US/Western Europe for the supposed tepid and silly/ridiculous sanctions:

That is a pathetic misguided opinion just because of this statement:

>“The 2008 invasion of Georgia sharply increased the popularity of Dmitri Medvedev, who was filling in as president for Putin.”<

It was a defensive and retaliatory strike to stop ethnic Russians from being slaughtered under Georgia heavy artillary assault. The EU Commisdion determined Russia was justified to respond but went too far. Calling it an invasion leaves out the ‘justified’ part.

For god’s sake, Russian peacekeepers (Russian Troops) were being killed and wounded under military assault by Georgian forces. Every leader of any nation having capabilty to retaliate against Georgia’s criminal murderous action would have done what Medvedev did.

This analysis is obviously so biased against Russia its worthless.

NO. Not at all. Never. I was never in favor of kicking UN Inspectors out of Iraq and invading. I Marched in Protest in DC against ending inspections in order to invade. And for that I and fellow marchers were called such things as “Saddam Lovers” by ‘young beer drinking republicans’ standing on a balcony above the street we marched on and under their **‘Young Republicans’ **banner… all proud to be supporting the idea for war.
So the truth is, I agreed with Putin’s opposition to the invasion of Iraq and I agreed wholly in 2003 with Dominique de Villepin who was France’s Foreign Minister who was vehemently opposed to the proposed US and UK idea of invading Iraq to disarm it of WMD.
Foreign Minister de Villepin expresses my sentiments preceding the invasion perfectly and clearly right here:

Speech by M. Dominique de Villepin, Minister of Foreign Affairs, at the United Nations Security Council, New York 14.02.2003.
The latter part of the speech:

Read the entire speech if you wish to know my views:

http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/Speech-by-M-Dominique-de-Villepin,4954

What did you do to oppose the war?

I see you have NOT been able to name one.

Carnalk asked me a question and my answer to him is NO.

So what do you have?

Who to believe?

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Agreed, you might as well attack the Danes for surrendering to Hitler.

Are you by any chance a fan of Said El-Saahaaf?

I see it’s a demonstration, but what for/against?

The name/slogan of it in the title of youtube video is “Fascism will not pass”. What “fascism” - who knows. This is Odessa - they are famous practical jokers. Maybe it’s a joke.

Wonder what excuse NFBW will find for Russia grasping for Odessa. After all Odessa has been Ukrainian since at least 1920 and 62% of the population of it is Ukrainian.

It’s Pro-Russia. They figured out from watching pro-EU that its not elections that govern, its protest.

Probably its not. A small number of Ukrainian right wing nationalists in Kiev got their way through protest and violence in February. So why not a small number of Russians just protesting. Should the new un-elected givernment gun peaceful protesters down for demanding closer ties to Russia?

Russia lost 11 million soldiers and 7 million civilians to fascism in WWII to fascists. They might be more sensitive about it than Terr is.

No.