Russia has invaded Ukraine. How will the West respond?

Meanwhile, back to the right-wing propaganda of Ukrainian tv, the indoctrination of school children and the dehumanisation of ethnic Russians.

Too bad you don’t know Russian. The indoctrination in Russian news/editorial sources and the dehumanization of Ukrainians is appalling.

I wouldn’t call the current Russian regime just “right-wing”. It is getting closer and closer to chauvinistic nationalism of fascism though. Hell, just the other day one of the prominent Russian “think-tank” directors wrote an editorial where he said (in response to comparisons of Crimea and Sudetenland) that Hitler was not that bad.

Um, you do know that the majority of the population in Kiev speaks Russian, right? :confused: This is the same “Kiev” that the people in your link are complaining about.

Presumably, they want to hang themselves, according to you? Or could it be you have no idea of what you are talking about?

Um, I really try very hard to not get involved in the SDMB as the Aspergers level. Hence dipping in and out of this particular thread. Um.

However, if you want to talk about ongoing indoctrination and dehumanisation, I’m all ears.

So you’re saying you’d rather deal in irrational emotional appeals rather than facts?

http://www.iri.org/news-events-press-center/news/iri-poll-majority-russian-speaking-citizens-ukraine-don’t-feel-threate

RI Poll: Majority of Russian-Speaking Citizens in Ukraine Don’t Feel Threatened; Majority Support Closer Ties with Europe

Seems about the size of it.

Reminds me of someone upthread who claimed a friend of his was hassled by evil Ukranians in Kiev for daring to speak Russian, as proof that Ukrainians were generally bigots.

Again, an absurd-on-its-face claim, given that the majority of people - including of course Ukrainians - in Kiev regularly speak Russian. Ukrainians may be bigots or they may not be, but this is one thing that they are most unlikely to be bigots about:smiley:

Kerry’s statement yesterday

Kerry might reflect on the fact that the converse is equally valid.

Here’s a good take on the whole affair:

Special Report: How the U.S. made its Putin problem worse

Smear away. Used to it after almost 14 years on this faux “progressive” US board.

Almost done at work…so XT and the rest of the “rah rah” crowd may get ready for further fun and derision…of facts.

Where’s “progressive” come in? Putin’s Russia is aggressive to it’s neighbors, suppresses free speech and a free press at home, panders to religious conservatives, oppresses gays, and uses terrorism as an excuse for extrajudicial detention and surveillance. All the stuff that people used to criticize Bush for, Putin is doing in spades. So how the hell is supporting Putin “progressive”?

They want more autonomy and federalism that will let them make their own trade deals. A national election does not resolve that.

I’m going to interpret that as an accusation of lying. That’s against the rules.

I’m giving you another warning. Improve your behavior.

For instance:

Say we compare the attitude of world aggressors/interference & number of military ‘sites’ in the world:

USA: List of United States military bases

Russia: List of Russian military bases abroad

For the more sagacious amongst you, one is not like the other. But mock/warn away.

If it makes you feel better than dealing with facts.

BTW, who the fuck asked the US to get between Russia & Ukraine? What the fuck business it of theirs? I mean could the two nations be geographically further away and isn’t the EU more than enough to handle their own bus? Other than their “Rulers Of The World” self-assigned mission of course.

Then again, the US’ unipolar world is coming to an end. Too bad, so sad.

Well, not really…

Almost 60 – no one gets to tell me what “I must improve.” One of the perks of old age.

Do what you must and “interpret” things in any way you can to run me out of here after 14 years of posting the truth.

Only way you’ll shut me down.

Good job, Jonathan, “The Hitman,” Chance.

Improve yourself dude & stop your witch-hunt against me or anyone who dares to differ from the USA’s famous “free speech” BS. There’s a laugh – and you are the joker proving it.

Again. Improve yourself.

Almost 60 you say. I bet you have fond memories of Nicaragua. Being able to bash the States without the ugly need to cheerlead for a ruthless autocrat.

The poll was taken over a month ago

And the polling agency is funded by the US;

Here is what they say on their web page:

Strategic interest indeed. Damn near got the Ukrainian president kiled.

Nations would easily fall apart if every country gave in to separatist movements. Just because a group wants to fracture a nation in order to form its own nation doesn’t mean it should happen.

Ah yes, Russia. home of free and independent media, free and independent social media, and free of repression.