There is no other way for the people of Crimea to have a say in what direction they want to go. So you think it was peachy keen for Khrushchev to give Ukraine the ‘gift’ of Crimea that had nothing to do with democracy or self governance.
The Western media and Governments have shaded the truth about the 2008 conflict between Russia and Georgia which tells me that we should be aware of the potential problems with the perspective that is being provided to all of us.
There will never be a situation similar to this one … never.
But Obama verifies that the Russian military presence in Crimea will have this effect on the overall outcome:
What is wrong with that?
How can you possibly know that? It might happen in Kashmir, or Tibet, or any number of other places, at any time. It already happened in the Ossetia region of Georgia, not too many years ago.
Never? No student of history would ever use such a word.
You didn’t answer the question. Is Obama wrong, yes or no?
Can you quote the part of the constitution you are concerned about?
I don’t know why you keep repeating this when it’s complete and utter bollocks. As soon as things are settled and a new election is held, the Ukrainian constitution will remain in place. You know, the one that does allow for an independence referendum.
I mean, applying your argument (if you indeed have such a thing) to other cases shows just how ridiculous it is. Imagine that France invaded the Spanish Basque Country in the 70s, and forced them to hold an independence referendum. Sure, Franco’s government was illegitimate, but that doesn’t give an outside force the right to intervene in local affairs.
You are flat out wrong. The whole of Ukraine gets to vote if Crimea may secede and 38 million to 2 million against allowing secession means it will never happen.
I posted what Obama said about that. Crimea will be out of Kiev’s control. Now it is a matter of to what degree.
I wonder if the secession of Crimea would have effects on Ukrainian politics (especially proportional nationalities) that Russia in the long run might regret.
Which part of what I said is hyperbole?
Strange that you keep going on about how the uprising and current government were against Ukranian legality, yet you’re so happy to throw the Ukranian constitution down the drain when its terms don’t appeal to you. Good to see what we’re dealing with here.
Provide a statement from Obama where he explains the Constitutional validity of the rushed impeachment of Yanukovich following violent protests in Kiev.
The movement in Crimea to secede was a reaction to the uprisings unconstitutional legislative moves. That suspended the Constitution creating the opportunity to secede. I think that is correct.
The Crimean Parliament has declared its Independence from the Ukraine. They are no longer bound to the illegal government in Ukraine or their suspended/ defunct Constitution.
I think Putin sees the utter lawlessness in the West’s land grab of The Ukraine as time to concede the politics of Kiev to the West. Putin does not care as long as his base and the ethnic Russians are protected. And he wants no Ukrainain military assets on the Crimean Peninsula. Crimea has potentential to become a flourishing Indeoendent Nation when its separation from the undemocratic turmoil in Kiev is concluded.
If it is done without bloodshed more power to them. That should be the standard for the world to recognize. Not the shit that happened in Kiev.
Well I see you didn’t address my question at all. Instead you produce disinformation. I can make guesses as to why, but it would have helped if you actually addressed the issue asked.
I think it is not. The “movement in Crimea to secede” was wholly manufactured by the Russians who jumped in using the crisis as a pretext. Note that the referendum as written doesn’t give the Crimeans the option to vote for true independence. Funny, that.
You really are a character, NotfooledbyW. For your own sake I hope that you’re just trolling us with what you know is utter bollocks. See you around.
Wow. You are so enamored of him that you can’t actually say the words: Obama is wrong. But I think we already knew that.
It’s like a textbook example of cognitive dissonance in action. 
You keep saying this as if A, it’s true (it’s not) and B, it’s meaningful (same).
The irony of this statement is pretty much off the charts. But please, keep that away from me…the smell of where you pulled this out of is quite intense.
Uhuh. The old ‘Western media and Governments have shaded the truth’ gambit, ehe? Oh, well played, well played. You’ll have Red eating out of your hand in no time. I wonder how he feels about having you on his ‘side’?
1984 called NFBW…they want their plot back. Oh, and they say we have always been at war with Eastasia…
(My emphasis to point out the ludicrous)
:p…:p:p:p
You can’t buy comedy this good.
So, the standard the world needs to recognize is the naked use of military force by a major regional power to carve off a chunk of another countries territory and cloak it in excuse so lame that only someone fooled by W would swallow them? Yeah, that’s what we should do.
Does he realize that Obama is part of that “Western media and Governments” cabal?