Cite or bullshit.
The President does not have the power you attribute to the office.
Why are you avoiding the question?
Can you provide a cite that denies the War Powers Act?
But you still need to answer the question instead of this constant diversion to something else.
Obama was not proposing to send troops, but if they were needed he could send troops for sixty days without authorization from Congress. So it is ludicrous to think that Obama must have Congress’s approval to launch cruise missiles for a few days into Syria.
Now you cite what would stop Obama from ordering a strike against Assad without Congress’ approval.
Actually, I was asking for a cite to back you assertion that attacking Syria would be a two/three day affair.
It wouldn’t. Not by a long shot.
Double post
Why delete it, Red? If we have learned anything from our friend, it is that posting two or three times in a row is the best way to debate.
Regards,
Shodan
Initial salvo one day + two days of aerial bombardment. That’s three days. Nothing close to sixty.
What is not a best way to debate would be posting off topic complaints about numbers of posts.
I’ll try to get you involved on topic.
How many days do you think the planned strikes against Assad were going to be, had Putin not caved when he did?
This never happened.
Regards,
Shodan
Don’t be ridiculous, and -
Regards,
Shodan
Cite?
Regards,
Shodan
zero. Obama did not have the political support needed to attack Syria.
Regardless of political support The Joint Chiefs had developed strike plans that were to last a few days as my cite shows.
A few days is well within the sixty day the President has to conduct war before Congress can defund it.
So you have provided no cite that would prevent Obama from ordering strikes whenever he determines it is necessary.
That means you have nothing and your continued citing something about public support is an empty baseless argument. That stops nothing.
“The art of the possible.” Once Obama had asked Congress to back him, and they refused, he pretty much couldn’t go forward with strikes. The lack of public support also made it unworkable.
Yes, he could have gone ahead and done it. But it would have been unwise, and, whatever else you may say about Obama, he is not a fool. It would have been a liability and undermined whatever (few!) hopes he may have had of getting anything accomplished in cooperation with Congress in the years remaining in his term.
Nixon could have nuked Hanoi, too. It would have been entirely within his power. It just would have been a colossal blunder. Obama striking against Syria would have been a slightly lesser blunder, but still a blunder.
apparently you don’t have the slightest concept of political capital. Obama had none to start with on Syria and it went into the red when he kicked it over to Congress. It further went into the red when the vote in the UK went down in flames. He is literally standing alone on this and he’s not going to spend a quarter of a billion dollars on a pointless display of power that accomplishes nothing. His approval rating is already in the tank.
Where have you been Magiver? Obama won’t bomb Syria because Putin caved. There is no reason to bomb unless Assad quits cooperating. And in that event one poll shows Obama was just 4 points shy of having more support than not. That’s close and that was hypothetical.
There was never a reason to bomb Syria. Obama stuck his foot in his mouth and looked foolish when nobody backed him up. All he had left was a UN resolution and Putin got the better of him on that.
Well, there was a reason. They had “taboo” WMDs and were using them. An attack would have been a signal, hard to ignore, that this was a bad thing to do.
It may not have been a good reason; that’s up to everyone to decide individually. But there was a reason.
Do you agree with me that Obama can decide that Syria’s use or loss of control of it’s chemical weapons arsenal is sufficient cause for US military action regardless of UNSC authorization or lack of political support at home?
Although it is quite right that every American gets to decide for themselves, it is also true that Obama gets to decide and he has the power at his command to do something about it while everyone else might be deciding.
Also I have posted the post where Mace wrote what he wrote on the other Syria thread…