Russian military's use of Lignostone

I believe the hulls of circa WWII US Navy PT boats were plywood.

I imagine resin impregnated wood laminates might be useful to make cases to transport and store artillery and tank rounds.

The prophetic writings were made and verified by modern dating methods and archeological research and dating methods. They were not written after the fact. Show even one example of a written biblical prophesy that occurred after the fact.

Here’s a study of Ezekiel prophecy with cited sources. If you want a research report complete your own and cite your sources. http://trackingbibleprophecy.com/gog_magog.php

On the maps, Simply put, No. I’ve provided several links to sources already, you’ve provided nothing. I’m not going continue to do the leg work for you just for you to come back and change the argument to something else that needs more leg work from me. If you truly want to disprove the bible and its prophesies you should undertake serious scholastic and scientific research on your own. If you aren’t interested in finding out for yourself by scientific analyses of the bible prophesies then that is on you.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is condemnation before investigation.

—Edmund Spencer

The burden of proof rests on the proponent of a claim. I have “provided nothing” because I haven’t claimed anything.

And you haven’t bothered to explain what portions of your sources support your claims. You’re just throwing out random links. Quote the relevant passages, if they support what you’re claiming.

Given that the Rutland factory burned down in 2014 and the owners show no interest in rebuilding, I personally wouldn’t want to be betting my progenitive organs on them ever producing more of the stuff.

But was it burned down for fuel? :wink:

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is mindless acceptance of Biblical prophesies as any type of Truth.

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Here’s a link to a cited wiki page that shows a reconstructed map of Hecataeus c. 570-476BCE: Early world maps - Wikipedia

View the map and Look for Scythia found in modern day southern Russia.

Here’s a link to a cited scholarly study into the identity of Magog (a son of Japheth, a son of Noah). These descendants have been conclusively linked to the Scythians by Herodotus. Herodotus’ reports regarding the Sycthians have been confirmed by “numerous archaeological discoveries”.

I’m not going to write a thesis in APA format for you. If you choose to believe that the Bible is just a work of fiction without any research, that is your choice. I’ve provided links to the works which have been cited and the works speak for themselves. It’s up to you to read them and come to your own conclusion. It seems to me that you find it easier to accept that the Bible is a work of fiction based on your set of beliefs rather than researching facts to prove or disprove it, which is the still exercising faith:
Full Definition of faith

plural faiths play \ˈfāths, sometimes ˈfāthz\

1
a :  allegiance to duty or a person :  loyalty b (1) :  fidelity to one's promises (2) :  sincerity of intentions

2
a (1) :  belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) :  belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) :  firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) :  complete trust

3
:  something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially :  a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>

While I do exercise faith in the Bible as God’s inerrant word, I also research the topics that it discusses to prove or disprove them out wherever able based on real research looking for the fingerprints of God. This is called searching for truth. You don’t seem to be interested in truth, rather, you seem interested in denouncing and belittling the work as fiction by arguing that it’s absurd without research.

Christ died on a cross for your sins, was buried, and arose from the dead three days later. Salvation is offered freely to all who will accept it as His gracious gift. Whether you choose to believe in and accept Him or not has no bearing on it’s accuracy and truth. It only has bearing on your ultimate salvation or lack thereof. We each must choose for ourselves. I pray that you choose to believe and accept Him. The ball is in your court.

Now prove that quote out by undertaking the research to disprove the Bible.

Reported to suggest forum change.

Oh, no. You are the one asserting “truth.” The burden is on you to prove it true, which you haven’t even begun to do. All you have done is cite worthless sources that can’t back up any of their “data” and state that prophesies are true that are nothing of the sort. Try again.

Moved to Great Debates.

Please note that this thread was started in 2004.

Colibri
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I agree with CannyDan here. This will be my last post unless I’m directly asked a question or quoted. This topic was originally started to find information regarding Lignostone and it’s use in military hardware which could be used as a fuel in the end times to fulfill a biblical prophesy. I’ve said my piece and I have nothing to prove or sell to anyone here. I’ve simply answered the off topic posts of others who have insinuated that Biblical prophesies have not come true and that they are vague.

I agree that this discussion has gotten off topic and that I have contributed to that in my responses to these false assertions.

Just as a sidenote, I find it interesting that Israel came back into existence as a nation at pretty much the exact same historical moment that nuclear weapons were invented. Before that a fiery Armageddon was something people could only imagine, afterwards it was a real possibility…and still is to an extent, and it wouldn’t take much for a new arms race to begin once again.

Just a coincedence? Certainly. A bit of an odd one, well everyone can decide that for themselves.

So there is no ancient map with Magog on it.

Thank you for confirming that.

I find it amusing that someone thinks the Russians are Israel’s greatest enemy.

Will anyone promoting this as biblical prophecy in action promise to forever shut up about it if the end of the world (or whatever) doesn’t occur as a result?

OK, do you agree that Russia is not using Lignostone in military hardware, with the possible exception of rifle stocks?

You’re willfully ignoring that the Sycthians are the same as MAGOG as evidenced by facts shown in that article that is a cited scholarly article. You wish to remain ignorant.

I’m not agreeing to anything that I do not know for certain. My stance has been one of questioning it as a fact since I started posting in this thread. I have no idea what material Russia is using in it’s hardware. Do you?