1: That a foetus is at all times a human life.
2: That to have an abortion is totally irresponsible.
We’ve provided reasons why you’re wrong - and all you’ve done is kept on saying your two points. Please, provide reasons for each, and also while you’re at it could you answer my rabid wolf question above? Thanks in advance.
Except for you.
You haven’t explained why an abortion is not a responsible choice, and you haven’t explained how you believe the onus of the pregnancy falls on both the mother and the father equally. That’s the fourth time I personally have asked, and the sixth time, total, that you have been asked these questions. You haven’t answered either of them. And I’m betting you won’t, because you would have to admit that:
a) The onus cannot be on both parents, the woman would have to bear the majority of it
and
b) You believe that it’s not a responsible choice because to your mind, she did something she shouldn’t have, and that child is a punishment.
Which makes you a major league sexist obnoxious asshole.
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You haven’t explained why an abortion is not a responsible choice
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Because abortion is killing an innocent child. That is where I draw the line. Sorry if you disagree.
Oh, I knew someone was going to bring that up. Yeah, that REALLY helps your point.
And the woman is agreeing, when she takes that choice, of bearing the burden of that action. Do you really believe it’s an easy choice to make? That what you’re saying isn’t taken into consideration? What a very narrow little world you live in. Women agonize over that choice. It’s never made lightly.
Now. As to my other question? Still waiting.
I have ansewed it. No matter what your religion, or politics, or job situation, or economic status, or anything else, abortion is a grave evil.
Fixed that for you.*
*My bolding, obviously.
Again: in. your. opinion. Personally, I believe forcing three people to be desperately unhappy because of your religious beliefs is a far greater evil. Not to mention, it’s unconstitutional. But I wasn’t referring to that. I posed two questions to you. Remember? The second was:
So. What’s your plan to make the father bear as much of the burden as the mother?
Humans are not cattle, who breed once a year and usually conceive right away ( 85 % chance IIRC ). WE have sex for many reasons, of which one, sometimes, is to have children. It’s not a coincidence we have both a low fertility rate and a full time sex drive.
And a fetus is not the same as a child, and suggesting it is is disgusting, and an insult to actual children.
That statement demonstrates you are either insane, evil or ignorant. There are pregnancies that will kill the women in question.
Garbage. Some children are victims, born with defects that mean they will never know anything but suffering. Some are burdens that destroy a family. Some are diseases that will kill the mother. Not to mention, YOU want to turn children into a punishment, a torment, a tool of tyranny.
A mindless fetus is not a human life or a baby. I noticed you haven’t answered - or even acknowleged - my question about whether or not you oppose organ donation. After all, if a fetus is a person deserving rights, so is a brain dead body.
A Child is never a disease, you little worm.
God, you really are a moron. I believe he’s referring to gestational diabetes, which can indeed kill the mother and the child both. Not to mention high blood pressure. There are many complications to pregnancy, as with any medical condition. Maybe if you spent some time reading books other than the bible, you’d realize that.
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That statement demonstrates you are either insane, evil or ignorant.
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And that statement demonstrates your rationality, or not.
No, I’m sure he thinks that any pregnacy is an affront.
Can I make an appeal for the sniping to stop? I realise this is (and has for some time) been heading out of debate and into train wreck territory, but there’s no reason to take petty shots at one another. I for one would very much like to talk about this issue.
Also, ecotopic ( sp ) pregnancies, and probably a number of other conditions I’ve never heard of or forgotten.
Ectopic. There’s also ecclampsia, and according to the WHO, even a woman’s age can play a major factor as well.
Moreover, just because a woman starts pregnancy in good health, does not mean she will remain in good health due to any number of factors:
Ah yes, because someone who dislikes a woman being reduced to an incubator and a child to a punishment can’t conceivably have any other motivation than a hatred of pregnancy. Where did that little delusion come from ?
Oh, and I notice you are still ignoring my question about organ donations.
Organ donation doesn’t have anything to do with this thread.
You still haven’t answered my second question, either.