sacred object in synagogue?

I just saw the wonderful comedy “Train de vie” (train of life), about a small shtetl (means village?) during World War II that decides to escape the approaching nazis by pretending to be a transport train heading for a camp.

One of the last things the rebbe does before abandoning the village is to go inside the synagogue and remove a large object. It is made of cloth, rolled up with two large bars sticking out, and has a plaque on it. It looks like it could be unrolled like a very large scroll.

What would that object be called? If it is embroidered text, what text? Is it a portion of the torah? A representation of the decalogue?


La franchise ne consiste pas à dire tout ce que l’on pense, mais à penser tout ce que l’on dit.
H. de Livry

I haven’t seen the movie, so I can at best offer a WAG as to what it was (or was supposed to be).
However, a synagogue would have a Torah scroll, which would closely resemble what you describe (the scroll wouldn’t be cloth, but more likely parchment).
The scroll would be the traditional Hebrew Tanakh (T-N-Kh, T=Torah (the Pentateuch), N=Nevi’im (the Prophets), and Kh=Ketuvi’im (the Writings)).


“Kings die, and leave their crowns to their sons. Shmuel HaKatan took all the treasures in the world, and went away.”

And it would be VERY valuable which would explain why it was taken.

NO, Akat, wrong. It would indeed be a torah scroll, but the torah scroll would only be the Torah – first five books of the Bible (regardless of which bible canon you follow), called the Five Books of Moses. The Prophets (Joshua, Samuel, Kings, etc) and Writings would NOT be included in the scroll.

The scroll is valuable because it has handwritten by quill on parchment, and must be letter-perfect. This is time consuming and costly (I don’t know offhand how much, but I can find out.)

The scroll is also valuable because reading from it forms the central part of the Jewish sabbath and holiday worship service. The scroll is treated with respect, we would say it is infused with holiness. For instance, when taken out to be read, everyone stands as it is moved about. It is not allowed to drop to the ground. Various other politenesses surround it.

Symbolically, it is the very Word of God made manifest.

Throughout the centuries, there are tales of Jews being burned at the stakes, with torah scrolls used as the kindling. The Nazis thought this was great fun, as it added to the torment of the victims to see the Torah scrolls being mistreated.

I assume Torah scrolls are still written by hand. Does anyone know how long it takes to make a Torah scroll today and how much they cost? This goy has no idea…


“I’m not bad, I’m just drawn that way…”
–Jessica Rabbit,Who Framed Roger Rabbit

I can’t tell you how much a Torah scroll would cost, but I can tell you that mistreatment of them is “punished”. If the scroll is ripped, the person responsible is required to fast for 40 days. Even though it is an honor to carry the scrolls, I would probably decline out of the complete fear that I would rip it.

Thank you Akatsukami and CKDextHavn for your answers. I assume that what I saw in the movie was the Torah scroll. It looked to me like the height of the object was about the height of, say, a flag, and that it was made of cloth, but I suppose that could be a protection for the parchment inside.

So even nowadays a synagogue has to have a copy of the pentateuch handwritten with a quill pen on parchment? A printed copy will not do? That’s a beautiful tradition, but seems that it would be very hard to accomplish in practice. Where would you find the parchment?


La franchise ne consiste pas à dire tout ce que l’on pense, mais à penser tout ce que l’on dit.
H. de Livry

From Judaism 101 (http://www.jewfaq.org), and another site whose URL I lost, some info on the Torah:

Torah Scrolls
The scriptures that we use in services are written on parchment scrolls. They are always hand-written, in attractive Hebrew calligraphy with “crowns” (crows-foot-like marks coming up from the upper points) on many of the letters. This style of writing is known as STA"M (an abbreviation for “Sifrei Torah, Tefillin and Mezuzot,” which is where you will see that style of writing.

The Torah is written with extreme care by a Sofer with all natural materials. The Torah is written on kosher parchment, with a quill, special ink, and several other utensils.

A Sofer is a scribe. Because only a sofer can write a Sefer Torah, Tefillin and Mezzuzot, a Torah scribe is sometimes called Sofer S’TaM. The Hebrew root of Sofer means to count, or to tell (a story). There was a group of scholars called the Sofrim who were responsible for helping to transmit the Torah text.

Kosher Parchment (ie. parchment from a kosher animal) called Klaf must be prepared specifically for that purpose (ie. the klaf for a Torah cannot be used for Tefillin, and vice versa). The animal hide must be specially prepared by being soaked, scraped and pressed.This makes the surface able to be written on and ensures that the skin will remain soft. Several columns fit one one sheet (yeriah). It takes many sheets of parchment for a complete Torah.

The ink must be very black, durable, but not indelible. It was made originally from a mixture of soot, honey and crushed gallnuts boiled together. Today gum arabic and copper sulfate are also added.

Originally the Torah was written with a reed. Today a quill is used. The feather quill comes from a kosher bird, usually a goose or turkey. A Sofer has a special quill he uses only for God’s four letter name.

To make lines to write on, the sofer uses a thorn. There is only a line at the top of each line, and the letters are drawn as if hanging from the line. The 42 lines in a column are usually 3-5 inches long- enough room to write the longest word in the Torah (L’mishphoteihem) three times.

You are not supposed to touch the parchment on these scrolls; some say because they are too holy; some say because the parchment, made from animal skins, is a source of ritual defilement; others say because your fingers’ sweat has acids that will damage the parchment over time. Instead, you follow the text with a pointer, called a Yad. “Yad” means “hand” in Hebrew, and the pointer usually is in the shape of a hand with a pointing index finger. The scrolls are kept covered with fabric, and often ornamented with silver crowns on the handles of the scrolls and a silver breastplate on the front.

The scrolls are kept in a cabinet in the synagogue called an “ark,” as in Ark of the Covenant, not as in Noah’s Ark. The words are different and unrelated in Hebrew. The former is an acrostic of “aron kodesh,” meaning “holy cabinet,” while the latter is an English translation of the Hebrew word “teyvat” meaning “ship”.

The Torah scrolls that we read from in synagogue are unpointed text, with no vowels or musical notes, so the ability to read a passage from a scroll is a valuable skill, and usually requires substantial advance preparation (reviewing the passage in a text with points).

I will try to find out cost and time to produce a Torah scroll.

But yes, Arnold, the Torah scroll itself is on parchment, wound around two posts. It is stored covered with a cloth to protect the parchment.

They’re expensive enough that the fund-raising program to buy a new one for your local synagogue may have categories going all the way down to “buy a letter”.

In addition to all the other things mentioned, old, worn-out Torah scrolls are given a ritual burial in a special cemetery.


John W. Kennedy
“Compact is becoming contract; man only earns and pays.”
– Charles Williams

As I’ve heard it, it takes a scribe working full-time at least a year to produce a single Torah scroll. Depending on factors such as the scribe’s knowledge, experience, and reputation, the price can be anywhere from $25,000 on up.

Two of the most obvious factors which influence the value are: (1) There are many detailed laws which govern the precise shape of each letter; and it is very easy to make errors and some errors are difficult to correct. (2) Even if the shape of the letter technically meets all the requirements, there’s still lot of room for sloppiness; scribes whose writing is not only technically accurate but also esthetically beautiful command a high premium.

The type of parchment used for a Torah scrois not available at WalMart, but there are a few places, especially in Israel, which specialize in this sort of thing.

Thank you for the information, fellows. This is why I love the SDMB!

The link to http://www.jewfaq.org was very helpful. There I found information about another tradition that was shown in the movie, the mezuzah (sp?) on the doorpost. Do jewish people still do that even if they live in a high-rise building?


La franchise ne consiste pas à dire tout ce que l’on pense, mais à penser tout ce que l’on dit.
H. de Livry

Yes. The mezzuzah dates back to Biblical times, from the commandment, “These words which I command you this day shall be in your heart… You shall write them on the doorposts of your house, and on your gates.”

They also serve as a reminder of the tenth plague in Egypt, when the Israelites marked their doorposts so the death passed them by.

On the mezuzot: most buildings in Jerusalem have a mezuzah on the doorpost, something that took me months to notice. This includes shops downtown, restaurants, every classroom in my school, my dorm room, etc. (Except bathrooms.) There is a bracha (blessing) that is said when one is affixed, and my friend and I theorized that the bracha is recorded so that someone doesn’t need to go around repeating the same phrase over and over again when a mass affixation is going on (like, to every single doorway in a school).

~Kyla

I don’t think they are recorded. But it would depend on the type of Jews. Reform jews may use a recording. Orthodox most definitely wouldn’t.

<< my friend and I theorized that the bracha is recorded so that someone doesn’t need to go around repeating the same phrase over and over again when a mass affixation is going on (like, to every single doorway in a school). >>

Hey, Kyla, good to hear from you, and hope you’re enjoying your stay.

I don’t think any one would use a recording. The purpose of the bracha is to sanctify the act of putting up a mezzuzah; it’s not just “magic words” that have to be said.

>>I don’t think any one would use a recording. The purpose of the bracha is to sanctify the act of putting up a mezzuzah; it’s not just “magic words” that have to be said. << CKD

Well, then, I’m glad it’s not MY job.

~Kyla

Actually, IIRC, one blessing is made for the affixing of all the mezuzahs in the building. The only requirement would be that no interruption in speech (preferably silence, at the minimum no irrelevant speech) would be made.

This is the case with all Jewish blessings – you can’t talk between the blessing and the act. This is most commonly seen between the blessing on washing ones hands before eating bread, and the eating of the bread. At many meals you’ll see people motioning, almost pantomiming to each other to communicate during that period.

There is a great joke based on this:

A Jew is walking along, when all of a sudden a (fill in your favorite antisemite) comes at him running with a dagger, about to stab him. The Jew, realizing that he can fulfill the ultimate commandment of santicifying God’s name, makes the blessing on that commandment. He says the blessing with such intent, and so loudly, that he scares his attacker away. The Jew, not wanting to have made an unnecessary blessing, runs after him saying “hmm, hmmm!”

story and a joke.

story:
When we moved baby Spritle from our room to his room, Mrs. Spritle and I put a mezzuzah on his door jam (we don’t have one on our house). It is a beautiful one I bought in New Orleans. We said a blessing and nailed it on. When the Mohel came to do his job, he asked us if we had a mezzuzah and offered one to us. We declined, having our own.

joke I remebered based on AuMatar’s post:

A jewish man bought a new BMW convertible and wanted a blessing made on the car. He went to an orthodox rebbe and asked, “Can you make a barucha on my BMW?” The rebbe replied, “What’s a BMW?”

So the man drives to a conservative synagogue and askes the rebbe if he can make a barucha on the car. “I don’t know if I can or not,” replied the conservative rebbe.

Finally the man goes to a reform rebbe and asks if he can make a barucha on a BMW. The reform rebbe replies, “What’s a barucha?” ;j:)

Bonus info on the muzzuzah:
There has been a bit of debate as to the location and orientation of the muzzuzah on the doorpost. Some said vertical, some said at an angle pointing in. I don’t know if there has been some official “ruling”, but most of the ones I’ve seen are at a slight angle (not quite 45 deg) pointing into the room or house.

I had actually heard that a Torah can be bought for $15,000, but I could be wrong.
Actually, most full-time synogogues will have at least 3 Torahs, since this is the most that can be needed on any one occasion. (On all holidays, you need at least two, and there are a few occassions where three are needed. This comes up when things are read from more than one section of the torah on a given day.) Most synogogues will actually have more than this, given that occasionally one will find something that renders the Torah at least temporarily unfit to be used (like a letter that has become smudged).
Spritle:
Mezuza hanging - most American Jews are of Eastern/Central European descent (Ashkenazi), and have the custom of hanging mezuzas on an angle on the right doorpost, usually about 2/3 of the way up. Sefardi and Aidot haMizrach Jews (everybody else) hang them straight up and down, I think.
Arnold W.:
Mezuzas are put up no matter what kind of building you live in for at least 30 days (i.e. not on hotel rooms), as long as it’s not a temporary structure (i.e. not on tents). Why would you think that living in a high-rise would change that? (Not a rhetorical question - I’m actually curious.)