Sad, Mad and Mossclad, Jarbaby takes care of her dog

I’ll try and keep this short, but it’s still making me mad.

My dog, Margie, who is the love of my life, is not feeling well. I believe she either pulled a muscle in her leg or is getting arthritis, but she’s not her normal, jump around like a nut self.

In the past, when she had joint pain, we were advised to give her a Bufferin. So we did, and she puked her brains out…six times!

Nervous, I called the vet, who told me to bring her in just to see if it was an allergic reaction, although they figured it was just an empty stomach irritation.

MARGE HATES THE VET. Many many dogs hate the vet. Marge shakes, and whines and trembles…she hates being there. So I drag her into the little exam room and a new vet tech walks in. Without even putting Marge on the table, without even saying hello or greeting the dog, she says to me,

“Hold her still, I’m going to take her temperature.”

She never asked me what was wrong with the dog, to which I would have answered “she has a sore leg”, instead, she pulled at Marge’s hind legs to force her to stand, and then jabbed the thermometer in her butt, to which Marge responded by whirling around and nipping at her.

The tech dropped the thermometer, jumped up and screamed “dammit, that dog bit me.”

“I’m so sorry,” I said. “She’s nervous. She usually wears a muzzle in here.”

“Your dog bit me. It hurts!” she said, running from the room. She closed the exam door and I could hear her yelling “The dog in room one bit me! She bit me!” As if my dog were a rare and deadly scorpion.

Five minutes later she comes in with a big orange sticker that says “WILL BITE” and puts it on Marge’s permanent record. “You dog will be muzzled every time she’s here,” she said to me rudely. “And we have to file this bite with the state.”

“She doesn’t have rabies,” I said. “Her shots are all up to date.”

She ran out to fill out the forms. The actual Vet was laughing about it. He said “I hate going to the doctor too!” and gave marge some pets and was very nice.

But now my dog, who is very nice and sweet, has this permanent record with the state, and I’m so afraid that this vet tech is going to try and sue me or something, and she was so fucking rude and I don’t know what to do! The bite (I saw it) didn’t even break the skin!

She should have ASKED if Marge was nervous.

She should have PUT HER ON THE TABLE

She should have GREETED THE DOG.

She shouldn’t have touched the leg that she’s been favoring for three days.

I’m so mad at her and sad for Marge and I don’t know what to do!

Dammit!

J

Good grief!! Why would a person like that become a vet tech?? I’m speechless.

I’ve always seemed to have the exact opposite of that with my beasties. The techs, and some of the vets, will baby-talk to my dogs. It’s all I can do not to laugh and/or retch. But every single one of them has been gentle and patient when examining and treating my dogs.

Give Marge a lil’ skritch behind the ears from me.

[sub]stoopid tech[/sub]

Although I understand that Marge was nervous, miserable and hates the vet (as our dogs did), I think she should have been muzzled, particularly if she was in a lot of pain. Still, that vet tech sounds like an absolute idiot, who if she’s making such a big deal out of being nipped and never approached the dog correctly in the first place, has definitely chosen the wrong profession. Hope the pup feels better soon.

That’s the point brondicon. In the past, they’ve always suggested a muzzle, even for clipping her nails.

This vet just ran up and started grabbing her, without even asking what the problem was, what her name was, nothing.

J

Don’t give dogs asprin!

It’s poisonous to dogs!

Didn’t Unca Cecil cite that?

I’ll check…

I’m so sorry to hear that this happened to your dog. :frowning: Have you tried explaining to the vet what happened, and complaining about the tech’s behavior and the “labeling” of your dog? Tell him that you don’t feel that this is justified in light of the tech’s rough treatment of your hurting dog and then the jamming-in of the rectal thermometer, and that you want the “biter” designation removed and the report to not be filed. If nothing else, file a complaint about the poor “bedside manner” of the tech.

Also, you have take the initiative when techs are going to handle your dog. Many times they won’t have read the chart before looking at your animal; they might not have had time, or don’t think they need to if they’re only taking vitals. Before a tech or vet even touches your dog, warn them about the sore leg and your dog’s nervousness at vets. Offer to help move/comfort/distract your dog.

“Bedside manner” is so important. When I got my first ferret, I went to my hometown vet to get his rabies and canine distemper shots. The vet put on leather gloves and held my ferret down, then jammed the needles into the skin. The poor critter squeaked at both of them. For future appointments, I’ve taken my ferrets to an area clinic that specializes in birds and “exotic” animals, and doesn’t even handle dogs and cats. Most of the time there, the ferrets don’t even notice the injections; they’re “scruffed” and held with their bottom supported, sometimes distracted with some yummy treat, and the injection is made into the skin at the nape of the neck, being held out in the “scruff”. The vet lets me help distract/soothe them when anything nasty, like temperature taking, is done. They aren’t afraid of being at the vet at all.

Bosda, I find that hard to believe, since it was my vet who prescribed the Bufferin when she was a puppy and had growing pains. When I went in yesterday, they said Bufferin was fine, but could irritate the stomach.

No mention of poison

J

These sites disagree jarbabyj!

http://www.pharmacy.arizona.edu/centers/apdic/pets.shtml

http://www.k9haven.org/poison_plant.html#HOUSEHOLD
Consider a new vet ASAP!

Buffered aspirin is okay. Regular aspirin is not.

It’s a common “prescription” for dogs or cats with any kind of pain.

Sorry about the Margester, jar. I’d file a complaint to the vet about the tech. That’s just WRONG.

Elly n’ the hounds

Huh? I went to your first site…

So the concern is about high doses (which margie didn’t get), young dogs (margie is not) and stomache problems (which I guess is why margie got buffered) aspirin.

Your SECOND source says

Again, NOT a blanket condemnation about aspirin, but a reminder to only prescribe via a vet.
Not exactly how you portrayed it… :rolleyes:

Geez, jarbabyj, I’d be taking the muttly to another vet without hesitation!!! That vet tech was an absolute idiot, and her behavior was absolutely appalling. I would have had a quiet talk with the vet before leaving and having your dog “branded” as a biter. As an owner of big “biters” (German Shepherds), I have never encountered such a twit vet tech. Most of the ones I have encountered will immediately muzzle the dog when giving shots, etc., because you never know how the animal will react with strangers, especially ones that might inflict an ouchie and surprise the animal.

I’m just worried about the vet tech over the next ten days. I understand that it’s the law to report bites to Cook County, but then I have to take Marge back (for like a parole hearing or something) in ten days so they can see if she’s showing signs of rabies.

RABIES? I’ve had my dog since she was two months old and she’s had her shots EVERY YEAR?

What if this tech is such an idiot that she wants my dog taken away? Do I have any say in what happens? What are they going to do to my dog ten days from now?

I wish I’d never taken her to the vet.

Good lord, even my smiley, labby, never met a stranger, pup would have tried to bite her…just stuck it up her rear, huh?

My vet tech gives my girl treats while inserting that thing, but not without first petting her and getting to know her…

But, maybe it’s your responsibility to muzzle her…not the vet tech’s job since you knew, but it doesn’t seem like she gave you a darned chance anyway.

Don’t let the “biter” label bother you too much…I can’t imagine that it doesn’t happen all the time with pups at the vet.

{{{Margie}}}

OK, now I see. They’ll muzzle the dogs even if you don’t. I thought they placed the onus on the owner bringing the dog in, not that I thought you were a bad pet owner or anything. Now it makes more sense.

Aspirin is fine in small doses. Non-aspirin pain relievers, like Advil or especially Tylenol, are very very bad for dogs (and cats too).

Sorry about your experience, jar. I had a problem like that with my herder, Katie, only it was a civilian on a bike. Katie jumped on her and nipped her ankle (Katie was young, about a year old), and this woman was going on and on about how she was going to sue us, and have Katie taken away, etc., etc. We never heard from her again after we asked her to provide the doctor’s report on her injury. :slight_smile:

Marge will be fine. Especially since the actual vet seemed to be fine about everything.

I gotta think that animal bites are part of the job if you work in a vetrinary office. Critters at the vet are often scared and possibly in pain. It would be utterly foolish for a vet to try to destroy every animal that gives him a nip.

The tech’s an asshole. You said the vet was laughing about the incident. You’ve got nothing to worry about.

I wouldn’t worry too much - if the vet was laughing about it then that is a pretty good sign it isn’t going to be taken seriously. Any idiot knows that a dog who is upset or in pain is at greater risk of biting. And I hope that he’s had a talk with his employee - over the years I think the #1 reason why people I have known have changed their pets’ veterinarians is not because of the vet or the care given, but because of rude or just plain dumb employees. And I bet a lot of times clients don’t tell the vet or the office manager the reason for going elsewhere, which is too bad because the vet shouldn’t lose business over something that could be corrected if they knew about it.

In any event, that particular tech probably isn’t going to be in a job very long if she keeps acting like that.

As for Miss Marge, did the vet give you a specific diagnosis on her problem? If it is a joint problem, she might benefit from some glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate. My older dog gets that, in the form of Osteo Bi-Flex, which is a good brand name that you can get inexpensively at WalMart. I don’t know how much a Beagle should get every day, but JC is 70 lb. and he gets a total of 1500 mg glucosamine and 1200 mg chondroitin a day, which is 2 of the triple strength tablets. I’m sure your vet advise you.

They said it’s probably arthritis because she’s seven years old and about five or six pounds overweight.

They prescribed a glucosamine pill, which I broke in half and gave her and she puked that up too, and it made her sleepy.

I don’t want a doped up dog. I’m totally at a loss. If she doesn’t improve in the next day or two, I’ll have to go back.

It’s so sad to see her not enjoying her normal activities. She won’t cuddle on the couch with us because she doesn’t want to jump, she doesn’t play fetch…she just lays around.

:frowning:

An expensive alternative is to have her put on Rimadyl. My dog’s been on it for just over a couple of years and it worked wonders. Of course, he’s now almost 13, so this stuff just lets him be able to walk around. (the glouc and chondro stuff didn’t work with him).

I feel for you, my puppy has been to the vet almost 20 times and she’s not even 5 months old yet! Luckily, she is not afraid to go and we have the best vets and techs we could ever hope for. Sounds like your vet is a good one, though, she saw through the tech’s story. I would put in a request with the office that you never get that tech again.

Don’t give up, it’s hard to see a pet in pain, but arthritis in dogs can usually be managed, it is just a matter of finding the right treatment for your dog. If it is a sprain / strain, it will heal, but it does take a long time.

I wonder if something like liquid baby aspirin would be tolerated better, maybe mixed with food.

Poor baby. Give her a pat from me.