GWB doesn’t pay rapists to punish women. He doesn’t gas tens of thousands of American citizens. He doesn’t have you imprisoned and tortured for what you said. Dipshit.
I must have missed where GWB mispronouncing “nuclear” and losing the popular vote had something to do with this…
Oh, please! Support is one thing, 100% support is quite another. 100% support when your vote IS NOT SECRET is not democracy, and it isn’t voting.
You can’t get 100% of men to agree that blow jobs are a good thing. That fact, in and of itself, is more than enough to prove this “election” a sham.
You can’t get 100% of men to agree that blow jobs are a good thing. That fact, in and of itself, is more than enough to prove this “election” a sham.
Yes but perhaps 99.96% would agree, possibly validating his last election.
Why is everybody getting so exercised over this?
Joe Stalin did this every time. We didn’t go to war with the Soviets over it, did we? Has anyone checked the latest election results from Nigeria?
It is possible to make the case that the current state of affairs in Iraq (and in Iran, for that matter) constitute a “clear and present danger” to the United States, and that forceful action may be required.
Trying to link that sort of thing to a patently bogus Iraqi domestic election is a retarded waste of time.
We already knew what this guy was.
So, how do you folks know that the Iraqi people don’t support the Iraqi leader? Why wouldn’t they show solidarity? They’re not americans you know, they’re Iraqi’s! Do you think that a similiar vote here wouldn’t turn out the same in light of the possiblity of an attack by some great power?
EasyPhil, are you honestly suggesting this vote was legitimate? As has been previously mentioned, if these results were accurate, Iraq would have had to collect (via land-based vehicles; remember, a chunk of the country is in a no-fly zone) and count paper ballots from across the country in a very short period of time. Logistically, it’s impossible.
No.
If another great power, was thinking about blasting my home land back to the stone age because the leader of my country was a tyrant and a madman, I probably would not want him to be the leader of my country.
Thus a no vote.
If this were a true election, secret ballot, I hardly think he would have gotten 100% of the vote.
Nobody’s mentioned the delightful fact that Saddam’s election campaign song was Whitney Huston’s version of “I Will Always Love You”. I’m not making this up.
Here’s a scene from the movie Moon Over Parador:
Two soldiers are looking at campaign posters. There’s a Blue Party and a Red Party. Both have only one candidate: El Presidente.
First Soldier: I think I’ll vote Blue this time.
Second Soldier: It’s a free dictatorship.
Well, I have no idea if Iraqi law allows for absentee votes or not (or, for that matter, whether women are allowed to vote), but given that one of my coworkers is, in fact, an Iraqi citizen and did not vote for Saddam, we can conclude that he does not, in fact, have the wholehearted support of the Iraqi people. As if there was ever any doubt. Seriously, anyone who thinks that this was a legitimate election has been sniffing way to much glue.
Oh, and Exgineer, I haven’t really seen anyone saying that because the Iraqi election was complete and utter bullshit, we should oust Saddam. I think we’re all just in awe of how blatant the complete and utter bullshit is. Except, of course, for EasyPhil, who apparently wouldn’t recognize complete and utter bullshit if it painted itself purple and danced naked on a table while singing the Star-Spangled Banner in Swedish through a megaphone and carrying a sign that says “Hello, I’m complete and utter bullshit!”
99.6% I can believe. 100% I cannot.
So let me see if I understand this correctly, the people of Iraq don’t support Saddam Hussein? I don’t see their PR to be any different from our PR saying that America speaks with one voice.
So let me see if I understand this correctly, the people of Iraq don’t support Saddam Hussein? I don’t see their PR to be any different from our PR saying that America speaks with one voice.
Oh sweet suffering motherfuck, Phil, is there anyone in the world with even the remotest hint of a functioning intellect who thinks that every American voter supports GWB? I should hope not! I wouldn’t have thought that there is anyone in the world with the merest hint of a functioning intellect who think that every Iraqi supports Hussein, either.
Certainly it may be the case that Saddam has a high level of support among his people, but given (as noted) that I know at least one Iraqi citizen who doesn’t, I am willing to bet that there is at least one Iraqi voter who doesn’t. To believe that he does have unanimous support, and support enthusiastic enough that nary a person failed to vote, would be the single most frighteningly gullible thing I’ve seen since I convinced someone that gullible wasn’t in the dictionary twice within a week. And it’s probably more gullible than that.
No, I take that back; it’s definitely more gullible than that.
As is pretty much par for the course for you, no, you don’t understand jack shit.
Would Saddam Hussein win a free and fair contested election? Hell if I know. Who’s he running against?
If Iraq held a yes-or-no plebiscite, “Should Saddam Hussein continue in power for another seven years?” with a secret ballot and an honest count, would he win another term? It’s possible that he might.
Is 100% of the eligible voters turning out and 100% of the eligible voters voting the same way a particularly probable result of an election anywhere bigger than Sealand? No.
Is 100% of the eligible voters voting the same way in a country the size of Iraq evenly remotely likely? Not one dissenting vote? It’s “possible” in about the same way as nearly getting struck by a meteorite on your way back from purchasing the winning Powerball ticket but being saved when your Great-Aunt Thelma from Omaha who you just had a dream about last night and thought was still in Nebraska suddenly runs up and pushes you out of the way, causing you to accidentally fall into a trash dumpster and discover a lost Rembrandt sitting on top of an original manuscript of the Magna Carta.
Is it even physically possible to tally the results in the time the Iraqis claim to have tallied them? No.
All intelligent people (whether or not they think we should invade Iraq) understand that this “election” was a complete farce, and says nothing at all about the Iraqi people’s support for Saddam Hussein’s rule or about much of anything but his own megalomania.
Oh, go fuck off. No propagandist has ever said that every single American voter–without exception–agrees on anything.
But Saddam Hussein launched missiles at the Jews–pardon me, the Israelis–so of course he can do no wrong, right?
I just love threads like these. They inevitably flush out a madman or three that I wouldn’t have noticed otherwise. Thanks!
Let’s see… there’s a homicidal madman in power who kills his own citizens for looking at them the wrong way. A man who has gassed entire villages just as a test.
Now he hands you a card and says, “Check this box if you like me. Oh, and by the way, I’ve registered this card to you so I’ll know whether you like me or not.”
What box are YOU going to check?
Love ya, Saddam. You’re the best. May you live a thousand years, glorious leader! Please don’t shoot me.
The problem is not that Saddam did this. What gets me is that the media has been reporting the fact that it was a farce almost as a slightly awkward incidental detail of minor importance, relegated mostly to an occasional subordinate clause, rather than a headline or sub-head (the Chicago Tribune apparently being a rare and shining exception). Reuters, which I believe has used scare quotes around the word “terrorist”, has not used them around “election” and “referendum”, where everyone except idiots would consider them appropriate.
Honesty, I don’t even think that’s it. Out of 11,445,638 people there wasn’t even one single suicidally brave motherfucker–some orphan with an advanced stage of terminal cancer–who said “Fuck it!” and checked “No”? Not even one person who just declined to vote one way or the other?
It’s just a lie, that’s all. They might as well not even have bothered to make everyone go to the trouble of stuffing little pieces of paper in boxes, for all the influence what was written on the little pieces of paper had on the official press releases afterwards.
The capper is - the people in Iraq who put this out there for the World to see are most likely not madmen. They know damn well that the entire thinking World knows that you can’t get 1000 people to agree that “up” is “up” - and even if you can, simple voting error would likely yield a few tenths of a percent of false “no” answers.
The thing that’s scary is that they are putting this out to the World, and saying “Yes, we are a totalitarian dictatorship which runs a country on a cult of personality and death, and we simply don’t care.”