Running 56K modem software on your 750MHz pentium will not slow it down much. So why pay extra for more hardware?
regardless of what you could say, or how the radio influences your purchases, it comes down to this: you didn’t pay the artist for the song that you downloaded from napster, therefore you’re stealing it. unless it’s an artist who intended for their music to be distributed this way, you are a thief. don’t try to give your reasons for making this version of stealing acceptable, you are a thief.
hey, i do it myself… but i don’t deny it.
what is essential is invisible to the eye -the fox
Did you hear that from a friend of a friend? 
The Napster source code has to be at least several thousand lines, and is probably a lot bigger than that, no magazine would publish something that bulky.
However, http://opennap.sourceforge.net/ lists a bunch of open source software that is similar to Napster. Maybe this is where the “broken source” thing comes from. The only place that I’ve heard Napster has been cracked is on this message board, but I don’t follow security news that much, does anyone have a citation for this?
Lastly, if you’re running Windows 95 or 98, I wouldn’t bother worrying about the security of Napster. Sadly, the consumer versions of Windows weren’t built with security in mind and have all kinds of holes malicious types can get through.
I just encrypt the important stuff on my Windows box, and try not to worry about it. There’s a great utility out there called ScramDisk at http://www.scramdisk.clara.net/ that is easy to use and is believed to be extremely secure. Check it out if you’re worried.
Get an external modem then you can just turn it off. Easy.
I read about Napster on some tv program & the music industry didn’t seem to mind because they thought it was the future of music production & marketing.
Yarster: That’s what I’m trying to say. Do you think anyone would sell a modem that can be remotely controlled by the phone line when it’s off line? If your modem reconnected to the internet then it’s because either windows or another program told it to do so. There’s no way someone who’s using napster can communicate with your modem while you’re offline. For one, the internet and the phone lines are seperate things and for another modems can’t be controlled like that unless you have special software.
you are stealing a live dave matthews song.
it doesn’t matter that you don’t have access to it via other methods, you are stealing it. yet for some reason you think you have a right to own his creation without paying for it.
why?
what is essential is invisible to the eye -the fox
i forgot this part:
there you go.
what is essential is invisible to the eye -the fox
Wrong. I paid for it already in another format. It’s not illegal to make a tape of a vinyl recording or CD for one’s own personal use. It is illegal to do so with the purpose of making a profit somehow. I don’t have a CDWriter hooked up to my turntable, but I do have one on my computer, so how is that different than making a tape from my album? I’m not saying people aren’t using this to steal music, I’m just saying it’s not as black and white as “Everyone doing it is a theif!”
“Love Story? There’s two things wrong with that movie: No Smokey, and no Bandit!” – Eric Forman, That 70’s Show
or, thief, as the case may be. (ugh)
Ok, i just gotaa add my $0.02 here. Asides from sucking up system resources, i can think of 2 other reasons that winmodems suck. The first is, have you ever tried to use a winmodem from dos? While i realize this is not a big issue nowadays, it does come up occasionally, and the answer is, YOU CAN’T. Troubleshooting a modem in dos is a great way to check the hardware, but you can’t with a winmodem. Secondly, they may work ok while they’re installed, but god help you if it gets messed up. These are a royal pain in the ass to get working again. They are so bad in fact, that microsoft added a tool on the windows 98 cd to REMOVE the winmodem drivers and all the registry entrys they create. In other words, spend the extra $20 for a REAL modem. It’s worth it.
God WAS my co-pilot, but we crashed in the mountains and i had to eat him.
Theft: the act of stealing; specifically : the felonious taking and removing of personal property with intent to deprive the rightful owner of it.
If you say piracy is theft, you’re ignorant.
That’s the bottom line. If you can’t pick up the clue in the multiple threads on this board, and the people I’ve seen claim that piracy is theft are all longtime users who I know have read the other threads, then you’re obviously not capable of learning from the printed word.
Tell us that it’s against the law. Sure, that’s true. Tell us that you believe it’s morally wrong. Sure, that could be…
But it is not theft. End of story.
Words are defined so that they have a consistent meaning. Use excepted definitions instead of just making up your own.
That definition I quoted closely matches two online dictionaries and one paper one. Only one mentioned ‘unlawful’ as part of the definition and that was only for a secondary description. All agreed that theft was depriving the owner of the property. Intellectual property, even if everyone could agree that it was a fundamental right, doesn’t go away if someone copies it, so that copying can not be theft. By definition!
For Kilgore Trout (From DaveMatthews.com):
Taping Policy
Dave Matthews Band allows audiotaping at almost every live performance. We feel that each show is unique and want to offer our fans the opportunity to recreate the live experience through the audio reproduction of our shows.
All recordings must be used for personal use or trading only. Selling or commercializing any recording is illegal and will jeopardize taping privileges for everyone. Please
read our Bootleg Statement for more information.
In addition to helping fans recreate the live experience, we hope tape trading will foster greater interaction within the fan community.
Hey, quick question. . .Where do you suppose whoever is trading the mp3 got it? Two choices, the net or from their own CD (which they presumably bought). If from the net, how about the person they got it from? Same two choices. Go far enough back, and all mp3’s on the net came from a CD that someone bought (well, presumably bought) or maybe from the artist putting it there him(her)self. So, the artist did get SOME money, right?
Well, either you’re closing your eyes to a situation you do not wish to acknowledge or you are not aware of the power of the presence of a pool table in your community. Ya’ got trouble my friends! -
Prof. Harold Hill
Gary Conservatory
Gold Medal Class
'05
I agree, and I forgot about artists that put the work up themselves. (See my Weird Al reference earlier…used to be the only outlet for his unreleased stuff was the Dr. Demento show, now he can reach a much larger audiance.)
Shine on, you crazy diamond!
give me a break.
what is essential is invisible to the eye -the fox
You high and mighty “I’m so much better than you, because you’re a dirty little dick who uses Napster!” people are making me fucking sick. You show up and clog an honest topic with all your fucking moralizing and posturing, then some of you start name calling about something you know SHIT about. Who the fuck doesn’t know that DMB has an open taping policy? Jeez. Look, if you don’t like it, stay the hell away from it. Just shut up about it. Not a damn thing you type is going to change a single person’s mind, so just keep it to yourself. Be all straight and moral and righteous somewhere else. Preferably over there.
–Tim
We are the children of the Eighties. We are not the first “lost generation” nor today’s lost generation; in fact, we think we know just where we stand - or are discovering it as we speak.
If I had a sudden, irresistible urge to contract a computer virus – RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!!! – I’d do two things.
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I’d get me some useless, mindless shit software like Napster. (download only)
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I’d sign up with AOL, otherwise known as “Virus Central.”
I don’t know why fortune smiles on some and lets the rest go free…
T
“Do you think anyone would
sell a modem that can be remotely controlled by the phone line when
it’s off line?”
Yep. ATX cases can turn the computer on when the phone rings. The bios senses the call coming in & turns on the computer, which is usually set to run a dialup program.
Oh well, so much for my request that this NOT turn into a great debate about the legality/ morality of MP3s…
Konrad, I accept that maybe my modem software doesn’t automatically accept incoming calls and make my computer log back in. But then the question still remains… (and please keep in mind I know nothing about computer software). Why the hell did my computer try to log back in on it’s own when the little Napster ‘cat head’ icon appears in the lower right hand corner system tray?
I have since taken Mojo’s advice and made really sure that it’s not there when I log out to prevent this from happening again, and thus far, that seems to take care of it. I’d just like a plain English explanation about why the computer logs back in when it IS in the system tray…
Clean up your language. Whilst the occasional profanity is not a problem, the members of this forum deserve better than that. Further, confine your rants to the Pit.
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